Disposable thoghts

[bombastinator2]

TLDNR: SPECULATION ON LEGAL STUFF
I have said in the past that the only thing disposables had was the were handy for illegal behavior because if they were confiscated there was minimum financal loss, but there is one more it occurs to me: because the juice reservoir is totally enclosed you get more reliable auto switches and their eventual death is obfusticated because users assume they are actually empty or broken in some other way than they actually are.

This might be a way to attack disposables: produce tutorials on how to get around the auto switch and see if they are actually empty or if the auto switch is just fouled. I suspect 90% of the time it’s the switch. Could be wrong. Engineers must have been working on protecting their auto switches for a long time.

there’s a thought: instead of making disposables illegal just make auto switches illegal. Disposables may just die

 

[CrazyNight]

While I get why some people have reasons to dislike the disposable industry, I really have to play devil's advocate here for a moment - why would you want to deny adults the right to use them if they prefer / enjoy them enough to use them to quit smoking? We already seem to have enough bans and roadblocks to deal with as former smokers, and to be honest - disposables have saved my a** in situations where I could not obtain traditional e-liquid for my tanks & mods. Maybe my opinion isn't a popular one, but here it is - all adults should be able to choose whether they want to use traditional mods or disposables, and they should be equally available. The world these days (especially certain states in the US) seem to be more concerned about taking away our rights than they are about our health or right to choose. We don't need another part of the vaping industry attacked, and I think that's a slippery slope that could easily quickly backfire on the rest of the vaping industry, IMHO. Not trying to argue with you, just felt compelled to share my thoughts too.

 

[bombastinator2]

It’s not that I do. It’s that in Australia they are. In a specific way that promotes cigarettes. Also they’re NOT equally available. Disposable are vastly more profitable (because they’re multiple times more expensive long term totally ignoring the e-waste issue)so they’re promoted a lot more and non-disposables are almost gone. You want to be forced to use a disposable for 20 times the cost? Or a cigarette like they're doing in Australia? I don’t. But this is what you are functionally promoting.

 

[Apocryhal_Zoomer]

The type of adult person who would typically, almost exclusively, use a disposable is not generally the type of person that would be assumed to be bothered with or capable of messing about with their disposable to improve it beyond a single use plastic tube with a battery.
That's it the actual waste is the biggest issue with disposables, and for that reason alone it's worth banning them (making them illegal).
The underage usage angle is likely disingenuous as it doesn't hold up logically when compared to other age restricted things which are indeed regulated and legally available for adult use, examples include such things as alcohol and r-rated media.
Currently for example in my country a 16yo can obtain a debit card from a major bank and simply purchase online such things as nicotine vape products, alcohol, and age restricted media (including porn) by simply lying when asked their age. Banning disposables will not prevent them from vaping if they want to they'll switch to pod devices or go full diy and make everything from scratch including the nicotine which I'm sure can be sourced from public ashtrays.

Just some thoughts.

 

[bombastinator2]

The type of adult person who would typically, almost exclusively, use a disposable is not generally the type of person that would be assumed to be bothered with or capable of messing about with their disposable to improve it beyond a single use plastic tube with a battery.
That's it the actual waste is the biggest issue with disposables, and for that reason alone it's worth banning them (making them illegal).
The underage usage angle is likely disingenuous as it doesn't hold up logically when compared to other age restricted things which are indeed regulated and legally available for adult use, examples include such things as alcohol and r-rated media.
Currently for example in my country a 16yo can obtain a debit card from a major bank and simply purchase online such things as nicotine vape products, alcohol, and age restricted media (including porn) by simply lying when asked their age. Banning disposables will not prevent them from vaping if they want to they'll switch to pod devices or go full diy and make everything from scratch including the nicotine which I'm sure can be sourced from public ashtrays.

Just some thoughts.

I agree. They’ll have to order them internationally though, and the package may be stopped at the border. It doesn’t make it impossible, it just reduces availability and potentially increases cost, while lowering it for everyone else. The issue is I think the auto switch

 

[ShamrockPat]

My sister lives in Cronulla, NSW and has 2 boys 8 and 10. I vape and the boys told me a few kids in the 8 year old's class vaped and many in the 10 year old's class. How did the kids get them? They picked them up off the ground or rummaged through garbage cans. Straight from their mouths. Then the 10 year old told me of being trapped in an enclosed garbage can once due to the lid.

Ban 'em all I say.

 

[bombastinator2]

My sister lives in Cronulla, NSW and has 2 boys 8 and 10. I vape and the boys told me a few kids in the 8 year old's class vaped and many in the 10 year old's class. How did the kids get them? They picked them up off the ground or rummaged through garbage cans. Straight from their mouths. Then the 10 year old told me of being trapped in an enclosed garbage can once due to the lid.

Ban 'em all I say.

Garbage cans? Copping butts out of garbage cans is always something kids have done going back more than a hundred years though. It would be cool to stop it for vapes but kids would still be hunting cigarettes