Can't hit 50W on Kanger Subox Mini without dry hits.

[nukiz0r]

Greetings everyone.

I've had my Kanger sub box mini starter kit for about two weeks now. I love it. However I've noticed that I can never get a decent hit at 50w on the .5 ohm coil without some degree of burning taste. I've followed the advice of another thread here, and pre-draw before hitting the button, and even dialed back the air to the smaller holes which work for 40-45 but not to 50. I'm running Mad H currently and Betty before this and they are amazing to taste, but I'd like to run it wide open. Anyone else notice this problem?

 

[ImThatGuy]

From what I can see...50w on 0.5 is too high. Try 25-30 watts.

Is there any reason you like hitting at 50w on your 0.5 coil?

 

[Wolfenstark]

50 watts is too high for those coils , there are new vertical coils which some say can take higher watts but not sure about 50watts.

ETA.
says goes down to 0.3Ω so maybe try a tank coils with 0.3Ω.

 

[nukiz0r]

No other reason than to try it. I like a hot hit.

I'm at the point where I'm actually thinking of upgrading the tank. A guy at my local vape shop let me hit his at 70W with the new Triton tank. He had a mix of VTC and Salubrious and it tasted amazing and the cloud was crazy.

 

[dcfluegel]

50 watts is too high for those coils , there are new vertical coils which some say can take higher watts but not sure about 50watts.

ETA.
says goes down to 0.3Ω so maybe try a tank coils with 0.3Ω.

yup - i generally don't push those coils over 35w

 

[nukiz0r]

Gotcha. Ok, so the OCC's just aren't meant for hitting that wattage. The funny thing is, with the RBA that comes with the kit, I've had decent success with 40-50 watts, but I'm still kind of new obviously so rebuilding isn't my go-to choice.

 

[Wolfenstark]

No other reason than to try it. I like a hot hit.

I'm at the point where I'm actually thinking of upgrading the tank. A guy at my local vape shop let me hit his at 70W with the new Triton tank. He had a mix of VTC and Salubrious and it tasted amazing and the cloud was crazy.

Aspire triton tank can use a 0.3Ω coil.

 

[nukiz0r]

Thanks everyone. Guess that's the next thing on my list.

Vaping is like guns and cars, if you mod either one of those you'll end up constantly searching for the next best thing.

 

[dcfluegel]

lol - the shinyitis has claimed another disciple

 

[TheDaughterOfTyr]

Yep I don't go above 35w with my .5 coil either but when we slapped on my boyfriend's Atlantis tank with a .3 coil we can push the SUBOX to 50w no problems. Of course why bother when a .3 can handle up to 80w right....

 

[suprtrkr]

+1 over here. That's too hot for a .5 coil. Go get a Lemo 2 and learn how to build it.

 

[coilburner]

in my opinion anything about about 27 watts on the sub tank mini with a .5 ohm coil is too much. I cant believe you took more than one puff at 50 watts.

 

[Daisychainvaper]

the older horizontal coils (I prefer them)... go up to 30W easily, maybe 35W with thinner juice
the vertical ones are rated up to 60W, but that depends on your PG/VG ratio. I can not go higher than 40W with 65/35 VG/PG.

 

[Bars113]

Need simple solution?
Just take 40W max an u'll be ok…

 

[Completely Average]

You know, the coil itself actually says what wattage it's made for.

Printed right there on the side of the coil. All you had to do was read it.

 

[PLANEX]

That is too much for your coil to handle mate.

 

[nukiz0r]

You know, the coil itself actually says what wattage it's made for.

Printed right there on the side of the coil. All you had to do was read it.

Thanks for the replies everyone. The OCC coil that came with my subox mini starter kit actually has a diagram on it that says depending on the VG amount, how high you can run. 50-70% states the .5 can go up to 50W. However my replacement coils do have it printed like Completely Average says. (I'm assuming you get these types of questions so often, its natural to give a slightly snide comment. Thanks regardless) Unfortunately I assumed when I bought my replacement coils they were the same vertical ones that came with my kit, but they aren't. Lesson learned as I will check next time.
This is an interesting learning process. Last night I made the mistake of putting in a new coil without wicking it first, and had my wattage set to 45. I was told to give a few test burn puffs to help the juice set in. Wow was that unpleasant. Pure cotton. I have a feeling that coil is pretty much ruined. Live and learn I suppose. I put in a new coil today, wicked it well (down inside the well, and several drops inside the side holes) and I'm back to enjoying the great flavor that Mad H provides, and now I know not to run hotter than 30W.


As I said, it seems I've caught the bug. Triton is next with .3 ohm coils.Then a new box mod. /sigh

 

[dcfluegel]

Thanks for the replies everyone. The OCC coil that came with my subox mini starter kit actually has a diagram on it that says depending on the VG amount, how high you can run. 50-70% states the .5 can go up to 50W. However my replacement coils do have it printed like Completely Average says. (I'm assuming you get these types of questions so often, its natural to give a slightly snide comment. Thanks regardless) Unfortunately I assumed when I bought my replacement coils they were the same vertical ones that came with my kit, but they aren't. Lesson learned as I will check next time.
This is an interesting learning process. Last night I made the mistake of putting in a new coil without wicking it first, and had my wattage set to 45. I was told to give a few test burn puffs to help the juice set in. Wow was that unpleasant. Pure cotton. I have a feeling that coil is pretty much ruined. Live and learn I suppose. I put in a new coil today, wicked it well (down inside the well, and several drops inside the side holes) and I'm back to enjoying the great flavor that Mad H provides, and now I know not to run hotter than 30W.


As I said, it seems I've caught the bug. Triton is next with .3 ohm coils.Then a new box mod. /sigh

for what it is worth, i think by 'test burn puffs' they may have meant primer puffs (close/ cover airholes and puff on it while NOT pressing button to pull juice into wick... watch for small air bubbles coming from wick holes to indicate juice flow)... vape on!

 

[nukiz0r]

for what it is worth, i think by 'test burn puffs' they may have meant primer puffs (close/ cover airholes and puff on it while NOT pressing button to pull juice into wick... watch for small air bubbles coming from wick holes to indicate juice flow)... vape on!

Yes!!!! That makes much more sense.

I see you have some chemistry going on there, as an aspiring engineer, I'm starting to see that there is a science (and a little of art) to all this. Brain engaged.

 

[dcfluegel]

lol there is a healthy dose of science mixed with a mystic dollop of art in vaping, in my experience - but the science comes first