Boycott mods and attys with painted threads! Please post specific painted products that don't have them.

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eturf

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I like black mods and atomizers. A problem with this is that the threads are
often painted. Since the ground return for the mod or atomizer is through the
threads, and paint is an insulator, one or more of three bad things are often a
result.


The first is you get shocked or burned at the joints of the sections. The
current is arcing through the threads. When you have a multi-piece mod, you will
feel it at the intersections of the pieces.


The second is that the shells of atomizers with painted threads will get incredibly hot in a
short time. I am not talking about 200 degF which is not bad to touch. More like
300 degF or more.


The third is that you drop voltage through painted threads. You want to
vape at 3.5v with a newly charged battery? I don't.


Sure you can strip the paint off the threads. You need a dremel with a wire
wheel. You will wear out about 1 wire wheel for every well-painted mod, perhaps
more for anodized aluminum. Once you are done with this arduous and time-
consuming task, you notice that the threads for the atty are also painted and
your wheel does not fit inside this hole. Instead, you can use a small sanding
wheel and sand off the paint on top off the flat surface of the top of the mod's
atty plate to make contact with the bottom of the atty instead of through the
threads. Be careful that you don't strip too much off the threads or it might
no longer cinch down and instead spin.


The easiest solution is to buy only non-cloned products. Get on a waiting list
so you can buy a $200 mod or a $150 atomizer. The original manufacturers of the
devices that are cloned are not so stupid or have so little attention to detail
that they paint the threads. If you have enough money to spend thousands instead
of hundreds on your vape device collection, that's the way to go. But I don't
have that kind of money.


But there's a better solution! Don't buy any products from manufacturers or
retailers who are stupid enough to make or sell a product with painted threads
on a device which depends on current flowing through those threads!


Please list any products you own that are painted but not the threads. It would
be nice to have a list of products to consider without having to look closely at
pictures to see if the manufacturer was stupid. I, in particular, would like to
find a solid black Nemesis clone. I can find ones with silver top atty and
bottom button sections, but there's not a single one in solid black as far as I
know.I would also like a black Magma clone without painted threads, but I have not seen any.


Here's a start, but please verify yourself before purchase to ensure that it
does not have painted threads. If a vendor does not show you a picture of the
threads on the painted device, assume they are painted.

Note: Mods with unpainted threads often have bottom and atty sections that are
silver colored, but plenty of mods have silver sections and the threads on the tubes are
still painted.



hcigar Nemesis Clone (beauty ring, locking ring, and atty connection section are all
silver)


Nemesis style Mechanical Mod (fasttech sku 1736802) - (button and atty
connection sections are silver)


Turtle ship V2 mechanical mods that have silver buttons and silver top caps


Stingray Copper Black Mechanical Mod Clone, with silver top cap (silver
coated copper) and silver button and locking ring.


Black Paragon Mechanical Mod Clone, copper top and bottom with wrapped
tube.


King V2 and V3 mechanical mods (All the painted V1s have painted threads). A
King V2 is the closest I have seen to a solid black mod without painted threads.
Only the recessed button is silver.


Atomizers


TOBH atomizers


Tugboat atomizers


Infinite Stillare (look carefully - some Stillares are painted)


Wechange Patriot clone atomizers. Few Patriot clones have unpainted threads, but
there are others besides Wechange.


Most black Enigmas are not painted


Vume Bell - other Plume Veil clones I have seen are painted


kayfun Lite Plus V2 (the Kafun Lites normally have painted threads - the Lite
Plus V2s don't. Note on ebay there are a few that have Lite Plus V2 in the title
that are actually Lites with painted threads).




Please share any additions to this list. If enough people sre educated about
this topic and do not purchase products with painted threads, manufacturers will
soon learn to use good instead of friggin' stupid electrical design practices.
 
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I'm a bit confused by a few on the list, are there some with silver paint or something? Silver endcaps are usually either stainless or plated, and plating isn't an issue like paint is.

I have several of the items listed and they have zero conductivity issues and as far as I can tell are either solid stainless or plated brass/copper. I like the idea of calling out manufacturers doing something as ridiculous as getting paint or anodizing on the threads, but could we get some info/proof that the ones on your list actually have any issues?

EDIT: Are we talking about ONLY black models here?
 
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eturf said:
But I don't
have that kind of money.

Just saying, if you have enough money to buy, say three HCigar clones in a given time period, then you have enough money to buy an authentic mod. And then, if you ever get tired of it, you can generally make a good portion of that money back and buy something else. Or even trade for another mod or atty you've been wanting.

I was with you until that point, as until then you were making a very good case for authentics (and still did, actually). Instead of dealing with sub-par manufacturing practices and going through all these motions to avoid them, why not just save up for a little bit longer and get the real thing? Also, if you know how to clean up a mech in very basic terms, you can get great deals on used authentics in the classies.

eturf said:
If enough people sre educated about
this topic and do not purchase products with painted threads, manufacturers will
soon learn to use good instead of friggin' stupid electrical design practices.

One of our (authentic enthusiasts') main points is that a Chinese cloner that produces your mod in a sweatshop will never, ever care about your safety. They would rather have you dead and the $40 for your mod than no money from you at all.
 
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"Here's a start, but please verify yourself before purchase to ensure that it
does not have painted threads. If a vendor does not show you a picture of the
threads on the painted device, assume they are painted."

How can you determine if it's paint, or polished SS, from a picture?

"Note: Mods with unpainted threads often have bottom and atty sections that are
silver colored, but plenty of mods have silver sections and the threads on the tubes are
still painted."

I have a couple versions of tobh's, turtleship's...yeah, I'm going to stop naming off what I have on your list. I'm starting to realize I have a problem.:)...but yeah, never noticed "silver paint" on polished sections...nor do I have issues with performance on any of these mods or atty's..
 

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I have a couple versions of tobh's, turtleship's...yeah, I'm going to stop naming off what I have on your list. I'm starting to realize I have a problem.:)...but yeah, never noticed "silver paint" on polished sections...nor do I have issues with performance on any of these mods or atty's..

I have never seen a silver one that's painted. They don't need to paint them since the metal is already silver, although I supposed it could be chrome coated, but chrome is a conductor so that would not matter. What the Note section meant is it is my observation that the mods with top and bottom sections that are silver (unpainted) like this one from Fasttech: often don't have painted threads.

As opposed to this one or this one where the top and bottom are unpainted, yet they still have painted threads where those sections screw into the body.
 
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