Epm long bottom leaf

[IraSurefire]

Hey guys and gals! I'm a new diy'er and I really would like to try to clone the epipemods juice long bottom leaf. I know they use TFA flavors but that's about all I know. Does anyone have some suggestions on where I should start? I can't even figure out the base flavor! Thanks!

 

[MattBott]

I'd love to hear some suggestions for a long bottom leaf clone. I don't have the time, or ingredients to experiment on it =[

 

[bebeste]

I recently ordered Marlbaro tobacco concentrate from wizard labs. It smells similar to long bottom leaf. I haven't mixed it up yet to see if it tastes like it.

 

[IraSurefire]

I recently ordered Marlbaro tobacco concentrate from wizard labs. It smells similar to long bottom leaf. I haven't mixed it up yet to see if it tastes like it.

Let us know how it works out!

 

[IraSurefire]

Okay, so this is the closest I have come so far...
8% TFA 555 type DK Tobacco
2% TFA Brown Sugar
1% TFA Tobacco Absolute
1% TFA Ethyl Maltol

The smell is nearly spot on, if not a little stronger smelling. Flavor is great! The 555 is upfront with the Brown Sugar finishing the flavor profile nicely. I'm not sure where the absolute really comes into play but I figure at 1% it's not doing a whole lot. I just mixed this one up about 3 hours ago so no steeping other than a (quite) hot water bath. I blend with a 90%VG 10%PG 12mg/ml nicquid and 100% VG as filler. All juices are PG based except the Tobacco Absolute which is an alcohol base.
It is worth noting that this comparison to LBL was done in the absence of actual LBL and thus is done solely from memory.
I took a vacation to Portland, OR this past summer and vaped LBL exclusively the whole trip. This new blend reminds me of Portland. I think that means I got it or have at least come as close as I'm going to without the actual LBL recipe. I hope someone else gives it a shot! Let me know what you think!

 

[b0redagain]

Then add some Apple Flavor (TFA) to get Oak Barrel Cider. I'll be trying out this recipe next time I get a chance to order some flavors.

 

[IraSurefire]

Right on! I really like the Oak Barrel Cider too! Probably the only fruity vape I have really enjoyed. Though I would like at some point to blend a Cherry Cavendish pipe tobacco sort of juice...

 

[MattBott]

Okay, so this is the closest I have come so far...
8% TFA 555 type DK Tobacco
2% TFA Brown Sugar
1% TFA Tobacco Absolute
1% TFA Ethyl Maltol

The smell is nearly spot on, if not a little stronger smelling. Flavor is great! The 555 is upfront with the Brown Sugar finishing the flavor profile nicely. I'm not sure where the absolute really comes into play but I figure at 1% it's not doing a whole lot. I just mixed this one up about 3 hours ago so no steeping other than a (quite) hot water bath. I blend with a 90%VG 10%PG 12mg/ml nicquid and 100% VG as filler. All juices are PG based except the Tobacco Absolute which is an alcohol base.
It is worth noting that this comparison to LBL was done in the absence of actual LBL and thus is done solely from memory.
I took a vacation to Portland, OR this past summer and vaped LBL exclusively the whole trip. This new blend reminds me of Portland. I think that means I got it or have at least come as close as I'm going to without the actual LBL recipe. I hope someone else gives it a shot! Let me know what you think!

Awesome! These flavors will definitely be added in my next order, I'll probably leave out the Tobacco Absolute though. I'll let you know how it turns out.

 

[MattBott]

VAPE MAIL TODAY! I got in my DK Type tobacco and Brown sugar ... holy crap, DK smells a LOT like Long Bottom Leaf!!I can't wait to mix this up!

 

[b0redagain]

VAPE MAIL TODAY! I got in my DK Type tobacco and Brown sugar ... holy crap, DK smells a LOT like Long Bottom Leaf!!I can't wait to mix this up!

Nice...please let us know how it works out.

 

[k3vin]

Don't forget to get typeM from tfa it has it also. That's the "bite" it has..

I about flipped when I tried their malty.. I'm waiting for 1 DIY flavor to come in and I hope to nail it. But if anyone has an idea of what else is in it ill listen..

 

[b0redagain]

Hopefully we can get a good recipe nailed down soon. Wouldn't mind hearing the differences in the original recipe posted and one with the M Type tobacco.

 

[k3vin]

Yea would be interesting

 

[IraSurefire]

Looking forward to hearing your results MattBott.

Boredagain - what tobacco type is the M-type similar too? Is it like the DK or more akin to the Tobacco Absolute?

 

[adeline]

Just so you folks know, that M-Type needs to steep for a couple weeks (unless you have an ultrasonic cleaner, then you can have it good to go in just a couple hours). The end result is actually quite similar to the DK/555, but with other delicious notes and a "bite" as mentioned above. Don't judge the M-Type when it's first mixed (I think it's gross before it's properly steeped).

Good luck!

 

[k3vin]

M type to me is in a class of its own.. In 10 ml I would put maybe 4 drops to start

 

[IraSurefire]

Does wizard labs carry the m type?

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[k3vin]

Not sure Ira unless they are calling it Marlboro type which that I know of is not listed on tfa website, so it may be m type just different name..

Once u get it though, everything else for the flavor will come together nicely..

 

[b0redagain]

Marlbaro Tobacco Flavor (TFA)

The description calls it M-Type tobacco.

 

[k3vin]

Thanks bored.. The 6 ml bottle I have on hand I have had for about a year and a half.. Great flavor, finally lol, when I first got it, tried it and stuck it in the back of my DIY cabinet.. Works great now..that's how long it's been since I have needed to even look it up.. But when I tried epipemods few flavors,in the long bottom and malty, there it was and it works great..