Thanks so much for all of those who shared their thoughts - I have spent some time reading posts throughout this community and I am very impressed with the sheer number of people committed to the success of these electronic cigarettes.
Based on what I have heard - I think that I will order a disposable 510 and also a KR8 battery with some assorted flavors. I am leaning towards the cartomizer KR8 if for no other reason than the simplicity. I would assume the the majority of those who purchase these will do so only for a quick fix while at the bar (as, under my current law, they will not even be able to step outside and smoke) - and not as a permanent replacement (although for those who are curious, I would certainly direct them here
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Also, the rental plan for the batteries is a great idea, and as far as I can see with prices, essential. Keeping costs down is key.
Ordering a disposable 510 seems simple enough. I do have a few questions regarding the kr808d-1 however.
Regarding batteries: I would prefer that each "kit" would last roughly the equivalent of a pack of cigarettes or so without any recharge. I also would prefer automatic batteries. I see that there are two different batteries, 280mah and 380mah (and maybe more for all I know). Would either of these batteries be sufficient on one charge?
simple answer 510 battery is 180mAh on a standard model and lasted me 1-2 hours...and is about the length of a 100 length cig..KR8 with cartomizer is slightly longer and standard battery 280 mAh lasts me at least twice as long so round 4 hours..the 380 is longer and lasts me maybe 6 but I use it infrequently due to it's length..
Regarding cartomizers: How long does a standard prefilled cartomizer last (roughly equated to traditional cigarettes). Would it be better to fill my own blanks? (Reading through the forums, this seems doable). Where is a good place to shop (at least for the purpose of obtaining a few samples so I can test them).
prefilled Cartomizers are probably equivalent to 1/2 a pack of cigs realisticly..if you're not abusing them and watching for signs of refill..so if they're tossing it maybe a bit more since they can abuse it and not worry about whether it's refillable..
While filling your own blanks is doable...in a setting like this I'd probably just go with prefilled...some prefills come foil pack sealed which might give some customers a better sense of mind about it..also often the blanks are the same price as prefilled so there'd not really be any inherant cost savings..
And one more question (and maybe its not good to ask considering the differing opinions), but would the kr808d-1 with the right cartomizer/liquid produce a similar experience to smoking in terms of vapor production and taste?
Yeah that's totally an opinion thing..and totally depends on the cartomizer itself and the juice in it..there were the standard KR8 cartomizers and the vapor production was "meh" in my opinion..now theres premium cartomizers which has better vapor production...and I guess soon to be at least one other cartomizer that is even better
without going into a super long explaination what they've done is lowered the resistance in the cartomizer which produces more wattage (heat) which puts out more vapor in these newer ones...
*look up the vapornine subforum and look at the thread/video on new cartomizer design*
Taste..well that depends on the liquid really and what you choose...but gods there's something like 100 flavors of cartos from one company now plus more at others...I at least think the flavor is not as similar but much better than a regular cig..
Once again, thanks for all the help. I now feel positive that I can get this off the ground in a way that is fun and affordable for my customers.
Matt
(For the one who asked, I am from Michigan. Yes, its true, it appears that people can't step out the door and smoke anywhere near the building - welcome to the nanny state)