Where do commercial juice makers get their flavors?

[CaliVaper]

When I say "commercial juice makers" I mean any business (store/website) that sells e-juice that they themselves mixed... their own brand. pick any of the moderately large companies that many people are familiar with, and that's who I mean.

Do you think they use the same flavor concentrates that many websites sell to the customer for DIY flavors? example: TPA, Flavor West, Capella, etc.

 

[Zanaspus]

In large part they use the same concentrates, with the exception that a lot of the good ones have in-house produced NETs and a few other concoctions. Nicoticket's naturally extracted vanilla comes to mind.

 

[Rickajho]

A few we know what flavorings they use but they aren't about to go spilling their trade secrets either about what they are buying to create their liquids.

 

[JD1]

I think a lot of them use flavorings from China as well as the usual brands found mentioned here.

 

[WarBlaze]

i just dont understand how almost every popular juice out there i buy and try and its like in my face flavor but i cannot get the same flavor to jump out like them

 

[sparkky1]

i just dont understand how almost every popular juice out there i buy and try and its like in my face flavor but i cannot get the same flavor to jump out like them

Have you tried every possible ratio for each flavor @ 50/50 ? they have .......

 

[WarBlaze]

some mixes i have lol guess i just dont have enough time to do it like them

 

[Hoosier]

The most difficult flavoring I have works with to date only got to the in-your-face flavor level when I discovered it worked best at 0.35%.

Getting that great strong flavor is more about gentle nudges and crafting at tiny %'s than anything else in my experience. That's why I always grimace when someone posts on here that they are approaching it like boxed cake mix.

 

[Jobe84]

Hoosier, do you have any recipes you've come up with that have that in your face flavour you would be kind enough to share?

Thanks

 

[NatTheBrit]

It takes a lot of trial, error, money, juice wasting and tweaking to produce a juice that you believe is worthy enough to sell to others. Sometimes it takes a mistake where you have actually added a flavour you never thought would possibly pair with another flavour to create a juice that is almost perfect to you.
You can't expect to throw a few flavours together and come up with an amazing juice right away. Start at low % and work up, make notes of everything you do and most importantly have fun

 

[aikanae1]

There's a lot of flavoring companies that sell business 2 business only. However for the most part I think a lot of the juice companies started out with flavors available to them, just like us.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Many do use what we use. I do have a few legitimate friends that happen to be vendors, and some of them use nothing extravagant necessarily, but I do know some will use companies that you can only buy from if you are a business. If you search a lot for flavorings like I do, you'll see many companies out there won't even have pricing or shopping carts available -- you have to contact them and go through a verification processes before you can get anywhere. That irks me, but I understand it.

Edit: just saw Aik's post above mine.

 

[aikanae1]

You too?
This is a company I was curious about. Mooreganics by AM Todd
another one for resturants and chefs Weber Flavors | Architects of Flavor Since 1902
A lot of them want to customize a flavor speciic for you.
I think flavor trade organizations have put out statements not to work with eliquid companies.