Hi guy's i am living with my sister at the moment who suffers from a really bad tree nut allergy(peanut being the deadliest), At the moment i am vaping on hangsen juicy peach, blackberry and blueberry, i have also ordered a diy kit and just realised i ordered some amaretto flavour which if im not mistaking contains almonds, it got me thinking if she breathed this stuff in second hand wise am i putting her in danger? would it be safe to do it outside? can even left over residue be a problem? I have vaped various flavours over the last 2 months and she has been fine(or lucky) any help or some advise from people with this allergy would be great!! going to be gutted if i have to chuck half the stuff out and smoke pure vg thankyou.
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Good question, one I had never considered before. Your best bet would probably be to contact whoever sold you the juice. Ideally they would refer you to whoever they get their flavorings from for an accurate answer. If I had to guess, though, there's probably not any actual "nut" in the flavoring. BUT THAT'S JUST A GUESS, so go to someone who knows for sure.
id say to be safe sell the juice or give it away or use it for when you are out somewhere away from her, with that kind of allergy id risk nothing if i were you
Well i am going to contact the company first, Does anyone know much about the hangsen juice?
I have an extreme allergy and had a bad reaction to a unopened free sample bottle. I'm not around other vapers so can't tell you about reactions to it there. If she is that bad, you don't want to bring any of it into her place. Peanuts are a vegetable, not a nut, BTW. Sucks she is allergic to both. I'm sorry, no experience with Hangsen. Allergies is one reason I decided to go into DIY.
I would mostly avoid leaving any trace of e-juice on surfaces she can come in contact with - namely everywhere but your room and just tell her about it. Any way to leave a trace is direct contact from you mod, tank and bottles and from your hands touching those surfaces after handling the said containers. Don't put your bottles and mod on said surfaces or use a cloth to avoid direct contact (one she can recognize as a "do not touch" item). I somehow feel the vape might not be as bad, but I am definitely not an expert one itty bit on this.
Asking the makers / distributors about nut content is definitely a good idea. I don't remember seeing any juice that is certified to not contain nuts, but let me ask you this: if someone was to eat nuts near her, would or could she have a reaction? We don't spit out nut vapor when eating them, but I have heard stories of such reactions where the allergenic item had to be kept completely outside of the house for some people. Perhaps her allergist could help shed some light on this.
Actually, peanuts are a legume... not the same as vegetable
Asking the makers / distributors about nut content is definitely a good idea. I don't remember seeing any juice that is certified to not contain nuts, but let me ask you this: if someone was to eat nuts near her, would or could she have a reaction? We don't spit out nut vapor when eating them, but I have heard stories of such reactions where the allergenic item had to be kept completely outside of the house for some people. Perhaps her allergist could help shed some light on this.
Actually, peanuts are a legume... not the same as vegetable
Thanks guy's will most likely stick to vaping just vg/nicotine when my kit arrives, will sell on the juice, Because evening even flavorings for the e juice could be harmful!(unless i find some 100% allergy free flavors), Best to play it safe i think, it sucks but hopefully just vg does it for me! never tried it with no flavouring any experience? also i assume vg is safe? lol
I'm in the category of can't be in the room but it depends greatly on which type of nut. It's a PITA.
Looking at different sites, it seems to depend on how they are feeling about peanuts the day the text went up. It was an ER doctor, two on different occasions actually, that told me peanuts were a veggie. I'm also seeing that some classify tree nuts as a fruit.
Here's one straightforward example of peanuts:Surprising though it may be, the peanut is a vegetable and not a nut. It doesn't grow on trees. It isn't harvested above ground. Instead, peanut pegs (where the nuts form on the peanut plant) develop on the base of spent flowers and bury themselves in the ground. To harvest the peanuts, you dig up the plants. A member of the legume family, gardeners can reap this energy-packed vegetable as far north as Ontario, Canada.
Food Gardening Guide :: National Gardening Association
I'm in the category of can't be in the room but it depends greatly on which type of nut. It's a PITA.
Looking at different sites, it seems to depend on how they are feeling about peanuts the day the text went up. It was an ER doctor, two on different occasions actually, that told me peanuts were a veggie. I'm also seeing that some classify tree nuts as a fruit.
Surprising though it may be, the peanut is a vegetable and not a nut. It doesn't grow on trees. It isn't harvested above ground. Instead, peanut pegs (where the nuts form on the peanut plant) develop on the base of spent flowers and bury themselves in the ground. To harvest the peanuts, you dig up the plants. A member of the legume family, gardeners can reap this energy-packed vegetable as far north as Ontario, Canada.
Food Gardening Guide :: National Gardening Association
A PITA I bet it is and my little seasonal allergies are already a PITA even if the consequences do not compare. I definitely get that part and feel for you all.
What you're basically saying (and it is really what I have been suspecting all along) is that no one agrees because no one knows what is what in all the non-walking or walking kingdoms. The real problem is that the classification system is mostly based on appearances / where / how does it grow rather than genetic relation, which would likely NOT give all that much more information on why and how does it cause allergenic reactions (or why does it not even look the same).
My money is on genetic manipulation (of food, no humans) and here's why: No one seemed to be allergic to nuts so many years ago and now it's an epidemic. Then, all of a sudden, a few generations later, one 2-3 year old sucks on a toy and the next 2 year old that sucks on the same toy is in the hospital because the first one had peanut butter for breakfast HOURS before drinking a quarter liter of OJ when he had to suck on that irresistible toy (it had to look good to him/her, right?).
Are we all becoming completely incapable to survive our own natural environment without any reasonable reason? Are we changing inside ourselves like no division of biological science could ever catalog - Including our own personal doctors? Or is it not more likely that we are modifying our own environment to the point we can't keep up? The answer is simple: Which is changing the fastest? (no need for a Ph.D. IMO! Crops change more than once a year, while we change once every generation at best...)
But I digress... or are we coming to the real point here?
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I've used a 80/20 (PG/VG) plus nic mix with no problem. Never VG & nic alone. The PG/VG mix has a nice flavor surprisingly, sort of sweet. You should be able to find many flavors that won't bother her. Ask the vendors and stress why you are asking. Make sure they give you an intelligent answer instead of just a yes or no.
People are getting weaker because we are no longer hunter gatherers and due to modern medicine. Had humans not evolved beyond subsistence living, those with poor eyesight and severe allergies wouldn't have made it to pass their genetic traits to offspring...
Are more people allergic to tree nuts now or just peanuts? Over 55 years ago my folks were told I was allergic to tree nuts, after I nearly died, and that that included peanuts. Turns out they were very wrong. Not allergic to peanuts and only mildly allergic to some tree nuts. Others will kill me but you learn to avoid them. I don't remember any kids being allergic to peanuts in school, now it seems like two out of three are.
You talk about modifying our environment, somewhat of a pet peeve of mine. Children are raised in such a sterile environment these days it's a wonder they can catch a cold these days with it turning into a life threatening emergency. Then I turn around and my dog is allergic to oats.
Are more people allergic to tree nuts now or just peanuts? Over 55 years ago my folks were told I was allergic to tree nuts, after I nearly died, and that that included peanuts. Turns out they were very wrong. Not allergic to peanuts and only mildly allergic to some tree nuts. Others will kill me but you learn to avoid them. I don't remember any kids being allergic to peanuts in school, now it seems like two out of three are.
You talk about modifying our environment, somewhat of a pet peeve of mine. Children are raised in such a sterile environment these days it's a wonder they can catch a cold these days with it turning into a life threatening emergency. Then I turn around and my dog is allergic to oats.
It's all a mess, itsn't it? We're being told such-and-such is the problem allergenic, and then...What is the real problem? is it the environment, what you have been feeding you kids? Is the actual ingredient list real, for real ??? I am not pretending I have the answer; I am saying NO ONE SEEMS to have a single reasonable answer. Yet.... the sufferers and their parents have more words about it than the supposed specialists... Who's right or wrong in all this mess... can it not be those who have the most to say? (IMO Doctors only repeat the crap they are supposed to and nothing more, nothing else and nothing out of the envelope!
The rare few doctors do sometimes think and speak outside the box. I try to hang onto those. One problem with them doing that though is that some nut then comes along an sues them. I have a doctor now that actually listens to me. Recently went to some specialists, and they did know how to fix the problem, but didn't listen to a word I said. If it didn't fit into their expectations, their ears were shut. So, how many could be fixed or properly diagnosed if their doctor listened?
Thinking there's not one answer but many. Letting your kids play in the mud and learning to listen as an adult are two good places to start.
Thinking there's not one answer but many. Letting your kids play in the mud and learning to listen as an adult are two good places to start.
Appreciate advise, I'm looking for a a company which sells nut free flavors in the uk!, When you mix vg/pg/nic with 0 flavors do i have to let it steep like you do with flavors? Because at the moment i have nothing to vape on!
No, but you've likely found that out by now. Good luck on your quest.
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