The optimal battery for 200w box mod

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jotohomomoto

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I've been glued to my computer screen/phone for the last couple of days, shopping for a new box mod to replace my progressively failing and annoying smok al85. I've narrowed it down to either the REV-Tech Nitro 200W box mod OR Modefined Lyra 200W (what can I say, I like the tachometer/clock look as the UI!!) w/HorizonTech Falcon sub-ohm tank.
My question is, which batteries would be ideal for this setup? I don't quite fully appreciate the subtle differences between 18650 batteries but, I always just stuck to Sony VTC5 batteries. The online shop (EightVape.com) doesn't carry the Sonys, so I picked the Hohm LIFE 18650 3077mAh 36.3A batteries purely based on popularity and not on any real solid information. I tried scan through google and ECF but I couldn't find a conclusive answer.
Soooooooo....I thought I would ask you guys, before I finalize my order, since I've always accepted that ECF, collectively, probably has the most rich and accurate insights on ANYTHING electronic cigarette related, on the internetzzzz. Thanks for your time!!
REV-Tech Nitro 200W Box Mod:
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Modefined Lyra 200W Box Mod:
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I'll try to answer your question by asking you a couple of questions first. What will be the highest wattage setting you will be vaping at?

When using a regulated mod, coil resistance is irrelevant. What is relevant is the wattage setting you'll be using. You don't need a 30 amp 1500 mah battery if you're only going to be vaping at 30 watts maximum. You'd do much better choosing a 15 amp 3000 mah battery which has twice the capacity (mAh).

Second question: Will you be using a single, dual, or triple battery mod? Both mods you are interested in use two batteries. In the interests of keeping things simple:

  • If you use a good quality 15 amp CDR battery like the Samsung 30Q or Sony VTC6, then you are good up to 45 watts per battery; 90 watts using two; 135 watts for three batteries.

  • If you use a good quality 20 amp CDR battery like the LG HG2 or Samsung 25R then you are good for 60 watts per battery. If using a 2-battery regulated mod, you're good for 120 watts as you have two batteries. If you are using a 3-battery mod, you're good for 180.

  • If you use a single 25 amp CDR battery like the Sony VTC5A, then you are good for 75 watts per battery, 150 watts for two batteries, and 225 watts with three.

  • If you use a single 30 amp CDR battery like the LG HB6 you are good up to 90 watts; with a pair of 30 amp CDR batteries you could safely do 180 watts.


WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD:
(wattage doubles using two batteries; triples using three)

Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR
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Sony 18659VTC6 3000mAh 15
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AW 18650 3000 mah 20 amp CDR
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LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR
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Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
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LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
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Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
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Sanyo UR18650 NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
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Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
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LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR
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LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
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Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
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LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR
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LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
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LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
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Sony 18650VTC3 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
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Generally speaking, the more you increase the battery amp rating the lower the capacity (run time).

Or, the more you increase the capacity (mAh), the lower the amp rating.

Amp rating (continuous discharge rating) - the current or power rating of the battery.
Capacity - an approximation of how long a battery will run on a single charge in mAh.



Sony US18650 VTC6 3000mAh

Specifications:
Nominal Capacity: 3120 mAh
Typical Capacity: 3000 mAh
Nominal Voltage: 3.6V
Discharge End Voltage: 2.0V
Max Charging Current: 5A
Charging Voltage: 4.20+-0.05V
Max. Continuous Discharging Current: 30A (with 80C temp cut)
Max. Continuous Discharging Current: 15A (without 80C temp cut)
Internal Resistance: 8-12 milli-ohms
Dimensions:
65.00mm (L) x 18.35 mm (D)
 
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jotohomomoto

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I'll try to answer your question by asking you a couple of questions first. What will be the highest wattage setting you will be vaping at?”

Wow!
Thanks Baditude...that’s exactly the detailed information I was seeking. I currently vape at 45W due to the limitations of my SMOK AL85 (it is hardly ever able to do 60W without misfiring).
I’m thinking I will probably be vaping mostly 70-100W but because I’ve never actually owned a device that produces wattage that high but based on my experience with my friends’ mods, I liked an 80W vape.
I’m going to look over your post and digest the information better. Thanks man[/QUOTE]
 
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jotohomomoto

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just an update,
I ended up ordering 2x Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR batteries. I ordered everything from DirectVapor as they seem to be pretty reputable and had everything I was looking for. Although, after looking through ECF, I now realize there's IMR Batteries, which are cheaper and apparently more trustworthy. Thanks everyone for your input.
 
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