Smoke coming out of the drip tip?

[balance]

OK, I'm pretty sure I'm doing something wrong, but I've noticed that my iClear 16 -- which a B&M sold me to use with my ego-t 900 -- periodically has smoke coming out of the drip tip. Same thing happens on my iTaste VV V3, even at 3.3 volts.

I try to keep the wicks wet by tilting and such, but it seems to me that still, I'm getting a burnt taste too soon. For example, I just put one in a 20 minutes ago, and hmm... tasting kinda burnt. I'm using Nicoticket juice (Virus and CLS); could these be designed for more sophisticated setups? Is there a step I missed? Am I just getting the dreaded vapers' tongue? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Colonel K0rn]

Is this happening after you take a vape, or just on its own? If it's after you take a vape, it's known as vapor creep. That's because the coil is still warm, and as the juice wicks back into the coil, it'll vaporize without you activating the switch. This happens a lot on my rda's when I take a long drag.

 

[Susan~S]

Maybe I'm not understanding your question. All the vapor should come out the drip tip.

If you are getting a burnt taste (we call those "dry hits"), if usually means your wick cannot pull the eliquid fast enough to keep up with your battery. There are a couple of things you can do:

1. Dial down your voltage. This will vaporize the eliquid at a slower rate (if your battery allows you to do this)
2. Decrease the airflow, if your tank has adjustable airflow. The decrease in airflow will increase vacuum inside the tank's atomizer, which should increase the flow of juice to the wick..
3. Take a sharp draw (or two) on your drip tip (without engaging your battery). This will pull more eliquid into the coil so that it will be available when you press the battery button and take a draw. This only applies to bottom coils.

You will get the feel of this over time and develop a sense of how often you will need to do this to avoid "dry hits". The PG/VG ratio of your eliquid also comes into play, as VG is thicker than PG . If you use high VG try adding a few drops of distilled water to your tank to thin out the eliquid.

 

[dice57]

if getting a burnt taste, then it's a wicking issue. Either you didn't allow sufficient time for the juice to saturate the wick completely before that first vape, or you are driving the atomizer at to high of watts/volts, and getting dry hits.

If over firing, turn it down till she don't taste burnt, if you singed you coil head, well, only thing to be done is replace it, fill, and allow a few minutes for saturation to occur, then vape, dial in the taste, and vape on.

Understanding ones gear and it's capabilities vastly improves ones vape.

Vape long and Prosper.!!!!

 

[SupplyDaddy]

As for the vapor escaping After you you have taken your drag/hit/toot, release your fire button a half second or so Before you stop your drag. This will stop the extra vapor and also help wet your coils slightly for the next drag.

 

[balance]

if getting a burnt taste, then it's a wicking issue. Either you didn't allow sufficient time for the juice to saturate the wick completely before that first vape, or you are driving the atomizer at to high of watts/volts, and getting dry hits.

If over firing, turn it down till she don't taste burnt, if you singed you coil head, well, only thing to be done is replace it, fill, and allow a few minutes for saturation to occur, then vape, dial in the taste, and vape on.

Understanding ones gear and it's capabilities vastly improves ones vape.

Vape long and Prosper.!!!!

Well, yes, I'm trying to understand the gear! That's why I'm here! LOL!

Anyway, the thing that's kind of puzzling is that the ego-T 900 mah doesn't have a dial down capability, and 3.3 is the lowest the VV V3 goes, so there isn't much more "dialing it down" that I can do. For the ego, especially, it is what it is -- though I'm not quite sure what that is, exactly. But since they sold me the iClear to go with the ego, I'm trusting (maybe wrongly) that the store folks knew a bit about the battery.

It's possible that I'm not waiting long enough for the wicks to saturate ... I am, sadly, not the most patient person on earth. But I think that perhaps Colonel K0rn is correct, that it is this thing called vapor creep, because it does always happen after a drag. And Susan~S's idea of taking a few preliminary draws might help if it is actually that the wicks aren't wet enough.

Thanks all! I'm still totally amazed at how quickly, and kindly, this community helps each other out.

So basically, what I'm hearing is that without enough liquid on the wicks, they'll singe, and then everything tastes like caca? Sounds pretty logical to me, but oh...waiting is not my strong suit!

 

[GeorgeF]

When you set up your iClear did you prime the wick first? don't fire the battery just take 5-6 drags. This helps the wicking process. I too had a similar experience with a clear tank with top wick. I filled the tank waited about a minute or as long as it took to close the juice bottle and screw the tank to the battery. Then I fired it up, I worked for a bit then I kept getting a burnt taste. My problem was two fold. First I didn't prime the wick, the other part of my problem is I was hitting it too hard basically sucking the juice up with the vapor.
Slow your draw, It slows the air flow and helps the juice wick better.
And I agree with the others, since I have switched to an EVOD tank first, then to a Nautilus tank. Both after vape. Meaning they still have vapor in the drip tip. It does not rise out though.
Try several different techniques until you find what is best for you to get the correct hit and flavor. If you can replace the atomizer in your tank, I'd try that with the new information and see if it helps.

 

[emily n portland]

Hi balance

All great advice, definitely give it a try...I especially agree that if the wicks got singed, they're done. It's never going to taste good on that coil again.
But if that doesn't help, here's some more conflicting advice....

Virus is a NET and both of those juices are very sweet. This can lead to more build up on the coils than some juices might cause.
If you're running them at lower volts the coils may not be burning off the build up, it just continues to build up and smolder or soak into your unused juice.

Over all Nicoticket juices love the heat, and are crafted for it.

With extra heat though you need wicking that can keep up.
So still following the wicking advice!

The next time you have a fresh coil, my 2 cents is try to run your itaste around 3.7-4 making sure to take light drags without the button pressed every now and again to keep those wicks going, tilt/swirl all that good stuffs.

Another way to tell is the next time you're taking apart/cleaning your coils...take off that little plastic nipple bit, and look at the actual coil under there. Is the silica scorched or is there a ball of gunk sitting on top of your coil? Scorched = too hot/not wicking fast enough - you're tasting hot metal/scorched silica. Ball of gunk = you're tasting burnt sugar/NET, or no juice can get through the ball of gunk to vaporize on the coil and you're also tasting hot metal/silica.

Once you get them working well, be sure to clean them regularly to extend their life. ie keep the build-up at bay.

Good luck!

PS -
stop by the nicoticket sub-forum, some of the Nicoticket fanbase doesn't venture out of the sub-forum much, and it's been awhile since I've used iclears.

 

[Happyme2014]

Dry burn your coil... it's probably dirty... when you dry burn it, do it until no more sounds and smoke come out of the coil. If you don't know how, look on youtube, there are lots of videos to show you how... it's easy and very useful. I started with iclear16 too... and threw away many coils before I learned how to save them through dryburning.

 

[Warpigs]

Yeah, I would clean and dry burn your coil. I clean mine every 3 days or so. I can get a coil to last 2-4 weeks, unless it's a dud.

 

[Tshoffner]

All good technique advice by these guys! I use ego t3s tanks and a protank 2 with either a 1100ma battery or a innokin itaste vv/vw battery! I build my on bottom could and cotton wicks! But even with a factory coil I let it sit for about five minutes standing up after a new wick, then take several long slow pulls without firing! And when I do fire it the first few times I take small drags and only hold the fire button for about two seconds! You will be able to tell when it is wicked up enough to take a full drag! Hope this helps!


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