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Well, looking around, people have brought it up. Totally went under the RADAR for me. Is this still out there?
 
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    Hubba Hubba

    Well, looking around, people have brought it up. Totally went under the RADAR for me. Is this still out there?
    I’ve been seeing it on instagram for a while. I asked the innokin rep about reviewing it and they said it wasn’t being sent for review. I’m not sure if that’s just for now or not at all.
     

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    This is not a review. I’ll leave that to the pros.

    Well, I was curious, so I picked it up to try out. It is very much a style piece aimed at drop-in coil users, more than builders, but you could run it in TC if you wanted to. And, of course, you can go into eScribe and set it up the way you want.

    The design and execution is pretty good, but there are a few decisions that left me scratching my head.

    The first is the tank clearance: there is none, so it’s going to be hit or miss as to what tanks will go on the mod. I’d probably size down, rather than trying to stuff a 24mm tank in there.

    The second is the default options Innokin decided to go with. It’s a pretty under featured set up, with no screen options, no off option, three presses to sleep which is not enough with the number of fire buttons on this thing: makes it a bit nerve-wracking to carry in pocket.

    I’m not sure the secondary fire button is needed. It’s okay, sort of. There’s a tendency to fire the mod any time you pick it up or put it down. There’s a Red only charge light in there.

    It’s saving grace is Replay which is pretty much as good as it gets with a drop-in coil, as far as vape quality goes. It’s a really good vape with the included Zenith M tank.

    The M tank itself is nice enough. Very minimal, which is what the M stands for. Innokin used a camlock, rather than threading to close it. You pop the whole top off to reveal a silicone gasket, as with some of the other Zenith tanks, which can be a bit faffy, as the gasket is only held in place by a small lip in the tank on one side. It’s okay but you can pull the whole thing off if not careful with your juice bottle procedure. It comes with the usual spares.

    The camlock takes a bit to get used to, lining up the tabs to get it closed properly. Best to look first. This is where the tight mod/tank fit can be a little annoying.

    The tank can be completely broken down for cleaning, if that’s your thing. It doesn’t hold a ton of juice, especially after you leave some headspace to avoid flooding. It’s rated at 4ml. I’d rate it as usable with 3ml of juice. This is not an all day tank.

    It’s a DNA, as far as the chip goes. It’s very good, if a bit quirky at times. Sometimes you have to fiddle with the 510 to clear a code or to get it to fire at full power, it chews through batteries. You know, typical DNA type stuff. It would have been better to go with a 21700 battery rather than 18650.

    Construction is solid. The leather is nice. It’s a blingy little thing, kind of a cocktail party mod.

    This is not my usual sort of thing, but it’s nice enough and that Replay function: that’s what you’re paying for here. Overall, not bad, as long as you know what you want out of it. This would not be my choice for TC vaping if I was into that, but, as a compact SBS, for Zenith coil vaping, sure, why not. I’m not sorry I bought it, is the main thing.

    Anyway, thought someone might be interested. There’s not much info out there.
     
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    This is not a review. I’ll leave that to the pros.

    Well, I was curious, so I picked it up to try out. It is very much a style piece aimed at drop-in coil users, more than builders, but you could run it in TC if you wanted to. And, of course, you can go into eScribe and set it up the way you want.

    The design and execution is pretty good, but there are a few decisions that left me scratching my head.

    The first is the tank clearance: there is none, so it’s going to be hit or miss as to what tanks will go on the mod. I’d probably size down, rather than trying to stuff a 24mm tank in there.

    The second is the default options Innokin decided to go with. It’s a pretty under featured set up, with no screen options, no off option, three presses to sleep which is not enough with the number of fire buttons on this thing: makes it a bit nerve-wracking to carry in pocket.

    I’m not sure the secondary fire button is needed. It’s okay, sort of. There’s a tendency to fire the mod any time you pick it up or put it down. There’s a Red only charge light in there.

    It’s saving grace is Replay which is pretty much as good as it gets with a drop-in coil, as far as vape quality goes. It’s a really good vape with the included Zenith M tank.

    The M tank itself is nice enough. Very minimal, which is what the M stands for. Innokin used a camlock, rather than threading to close the mod. You pop the whole top off to reveal a silicone gasket, as with some of the other Zenith tanks, which can be a bit faffy, as the gasket is only held in place by a small lip in the tank on one side. It’s okay but you can pull the whole thing off if not careful with your juice bottle procedure. It comes with the usual spares.

    The camlock takes a bit to get used to, lining up the tabs to get it closed properly. Best to look first. This is where the tight mod/tank fit can be a little annoying.

    The tank can be completely broken down for cleaning, if that’s your thing. It doesn’t hold a ton of juice, especially after you leave some headspace to avoid flooding. It’s rated at 4ml. I’d rate it as usable with 3ml of juice. This is not an all day tank.

    It’s a DNA, as far as the chip goes. It’s very good, if a bit quirky at times. Sometimes you have to fiddle with the 510 to clear a code or to get it to fire at full power, it chews through batteries. You know, typical DNA type stuff. It would have been better to go with a 21700 battery rather than 18650.

    Construction is solid. The leather is nice. It’s a blingy little thing, kind of a cocktail party mod.

    This is not my usual sort of thing, but it’s nice enough and that Replay function: that’s what you’re paying for here. Overall, not bad, as long as you know what you want out of it. This would not be my choice for TC vaping if I was into that, but, as a compact SBS, for Zenith coil vaping, sure, why not. I’m not sorry I bought it, is the main thing.

    Anyway, thought someone might be interested. There’s not much info out there.
    Thanks for your thoughts on it. I thought about it and hoped there would be review samples sent out but no one I know of on ECF got one for review including me.
     
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    Thanks for reading. Just to add: I’m somewhat surprised Innokin went with a DNA chip. They have some great chips in house already. Maybe they were going for a more premium market? Replay is nice but so are some of the preset coil profiles Innokin has used in the past.
    Maybe they’ll come out with a less expensive model without the dna.
     
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    Yeah, there is definitely an Evolv tax.

    I’ve been moving towards 21700 batteries. I don’t feel like carrying my Dicodes when traveling. You never know what might come up.

    So, anyway, I’m just getting around to trying the Kroma 217. Now that’s a great mod.

    I’ve been using the Z80’s since they came out, but MPV’s for travel because, let’s face it; those things will run a very long time on low watts, but they don’t make them now. So, enter the 217’s.

    I can stick a 5000 mAh battery in there and run it a long time between charges. At least, that’s the plan.

    I keep hoping Innokin will do another MPV. I love those things.

    They seem to be moving away from mods, in general, notwithstanding the new Z80. I hope they can stay in business.
     

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    Yeah, there is definitely an Evolv tax.

    I’ve been moving towards 21700 batteries. I don’t feel like carrying my Dicodes when traveling. You never know what might come up.

    So, anyway, I’m just getting around to trying the Kroma 217. Now that’s a great mod.

    I’ve been using the Z80’s since they came out, but MPV’s for travel because, let’s face it; those things will run a very long time on low watts, but they don’t make them now. So, enter the 217’s.

    I can stick a 5000 mAh battery in there and run it a long time between charges. At least, that’s the plan.

    I keep hoping Innokin will do another MPV. I love those things.

    They seem to be moving away from mods, in general, notwithstanding the new Z80. I hope they can stay in business.
    I might still have an MVP living in my basement. I can’t remember if I sold it or not. I’m currently loving the Dotbox 100. It’s a very compact 21700 mod.
     
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