Replacement for Isopropyl Alcohol?

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Ok, In the country where I live (Bananama Republic) I can't get isopropyl alcohol without a medical prescription, it seems that the government is worried that people may start doing their own alcohol beverage without paying taxes.

The max that I can get without a medical prescription is less than 1 Oz... so if is possible to use something else as a substitute? Alcohols here I can only get the denatured and the drinking ones ;) vodka, rum, and so on...

I have a 90º denatured alcohol bottle, but I'm not sure if I should use it... as I understand it is toxic and probably not a good idea :(
 

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You don't want isopropyl -- that's wood alcohol. Hopefully you mean ethanol?

In NY we can't get pure grain alcohol -- everclear, 190 proof. I just stopped by a store, however, and it turns out they sell 160 proof Devil's Kitchen vodka. Perhaps they have really high proof vodka in panama?
 

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Methanol is wood alcohol. Isopropyl alcohol is synthesized from water and propene. They are not the same. Isopropyl alcohol is a "bad" drunk - it's much more poisonous than ethanol, but less so than methanol.

Vodka (in the U.S.) is by law flavorless and without additives other than water. Water is not a problem for most uses of alcohol in vaping. High proof Smirnoff should have no added flavoring, but I'm unsure of Panamanian Vodkas.
 

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Ok, In the country where I live (Bananama Republic) I can't get isopropyl alcohol without a medical prescription, it seems that the government is worried that people may start doing their own alcohol beverage without paying taxes.

The max that I can get without a medical prescription is less than 1 Oz... so if is possible to use something else as a substitute? Alcohols here I can only get the denatured and the drinking ones ;) vodka, rum, and so on...

I have a 90º denatured alcohol bottle, but I'm not sure if I should use it... as I understand it is toxic and probably not a good idea :(

Pure Grain Alcohol. If you can get it there. Probably not.

Worst case scenario- Vodka.

Denatured alcohol has stuff put into it specifically to make it undrinkable. Don't use it for cleaning vaping stuff.
 

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Denatured alcohol (or methylated spirits) is ethanol that has additives to make it more poisonous or unpalatable, and thus, undrinkable. In some cases it is also dyed.
Denatured alcohol is used as a solvent and as fuel for spirit burners and camping stoves. Because of the diversity of industrial uses for denatured alcohol, hundreds of additives and denaturing methods have been used. Traditionally, the main additive is 10% methanol, giving rise to the term 'methylated spirit'. Other typical additives include isopropyl alcohol, acetone, methyl ethyl ketone, methyl isobutyl ketone, and denatonium.[1]
Denaturing alcohol does not chemically alter the ethanol molecule. Rather, the ethanol is mixed with other chemicals to form an undrinkable mixture.
Different additives are used to make it difficult to use distillation or other simple processes to reverse the denaturation. Methanol is commonly used both because of its boiling point being close to that of ethanol and because it is toxic. In many countries, it is also required that denatured alcohol be dyed blue or

Rubbing alcohol, USP / B.P. is a liquid prepared and used primarily for topical application. It is prepared from a special denatured alcohol solution and contains 97.5-100% by volume of pure, concentrated ethanol (ethyl alcohol) or isopropyl alcohol (isopropanol).[1] Individual manufacturers can use their own "formulation standards" in which the ethanol content usually ranges from 70-99% v/v.[2] In the UK the equivalent skin preparation is surgical spirit which is always based on an ethyl alcohol-methyl alcohol mixture.
The term "rubbing alcohol" has become a general non-specific term for either isopropyl alcohol (isopropanol) or ethyl alcohol (ethanol) rubbing-alcohol products. The confusion comes from the greater popularity of isopropyl rubbing alcohol, and as a result, individuals requesting "rubbing alcohol" generally expect and get an isopropyl alcohol product.

Isopropyl alcohol is oxidized by the liver into acetone by alcohol dehydrogenase. Symptoms of isopropyl alcohol poisoning include flushing, headache, dizziness, CNS depression, nausea, vomiting, anesthesia, and coma. Use in well-ventilated areas and use protective gloves while using. Poisoning can occur from ingestion, inhalation, or absorption.
Isopropyl alcohol acts as a central nervous system (CNS) depressant. Its metabolite, acetone, is a CNS depressant in its own right. Around 15 g of isopropyl alcohol can have a toxic effect on a 70 kg human if left untreated.[9] However, it is not nearly as toxic as methanol or ethylene glycol. Isopropyl alcohol does not cause an anion gap acidosis (in which as lowered blood serum pH causes depletion of bicarbonate anion) as do ethanol and methanol. Isopropyl alcohol does, however, produce an osmolal gap between the calculated and measured osmolalities of serum, as do the other alcohols. Overdoses may cause a fruity odor on the breath as a result of its metabolism to acetone, which is further metabolized to produce the nutrients acetate and glucose.[10]

Vodka (Polish: wódka, Russian: водка, Ukrainian: горілка, horilka Czech: vodka, Slovak: vodka) is a distilled beverage and one of the world's most popular liquors. It is composed primarily of water and ethanol with traces of impurities and flavorings. Vodka is made from fermented substances like grain and potatoes.
Vodka's alcoholic content usually ranges between 35-50% by volume; the standard Polish, Russian and Lithuanian vodkas are 40% alcohol by volume (80 proof).
Historically, this alcoholic-proof standard derives from the Russian vodka quality standards established by Tsar Alexander III in 1894.[1][verification needed] The Muscovite Vodka Museum reports that chemist Dmitri Mendeleev determined the ideal alcohol content as 38%; however, because in that time distilled spirits were taxed per their alcoholic strength, that percentage was rounded upwards to 40% for simplified taxation calculations.[citation needed]
 
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Hello thank you for your comments, I just found a 103 proof vodka, brand: UV, produced and bottled by phillips products, mn, 100% grain neutral spirits. It seems to be the best that I can find here...

I also got some white vinegar, I'll try first with the vodka and if that doesn't work I'll give it the vinegar and then vodka to rinse...
 

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Yes, there are many vapers that use vodka.

Well guess I am lucky because I went into the liquor store and got a bottle of Ever Clear Grain Alcohol 190 proof 350 ml & 11 bucks and some change... Now need to go find out what to do with it again.. did not book mark it... Lesson learned..LOL

need to change my Profile looks like as I made it to Texas..
 
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Pure Grain Alcohol. If you can get it there. Probably not.

Worst case scenario- Vodka.

Denatured alcohol has stuff put into it specifically to make it undrinkable. Don't use it for cleaning vaping stuff.

It seems as if you abandoned your 70-91% iso bath method? did anyone chime in with adverse effects ? cause it seems to work fine and iso alcohol dissapates into thin air.
 
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