RDTA vs RTA

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which tank is better RDTA or RTA?

Which bounces higher, a yellow ball or a red one?

Kidding, but it's generally the same question. The better question is, which is better for you?

RTA- Just a tank that can rebuilt, they come in many different styles and how easy to build varies.
RDTA- Just a tank that can be rebuilt, they come in many different styles and how easy to build varies.

Personally they are two sides to the same coin, in my opinion. Which one that may work better for you depends on your style of vaping and skill level. I (my opinion) think most RDTA's are easier to coil but wicking can be tricky. Most RTA's can be a little trickier to coil depending on the deck but wicking is "usually" more forgiving than with most RDTA's.

That's the thing about it, any answer will be in terms of mostly or generally and will vary person to person. RDTA's remind me of the old genesis tanks (love them) many people hate them. They can be finicky, tricky to build on, a nightmare to wick and what was working yesterday may not today, oh and leak like crazy if on their side. However, when everything is right, it's magic. All that cursing and hating life goes away, you remember why you spent 3 hours building it.

RDTA's aren't anything like building the old genny tanks but work on the same idea. I prefer RDA's over either RTA or RTDA. Best way to decide is to be honest with yourself about what you want and your skill level. Then you'll be able to decide which one is better, cause neither is good if you can't build them.
 

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I have a couple of RDTAs - Steam Crave Supreme V2 being the BEST for flavor. Not difficult to wick and large enough to easily build on. They come with different size tanks from 6-10 or so mls.
I used to use it for dripping (RDA) but I’ve got dozens of RDAs now so I just use it with the tank.
It’s an older but still highly regarded atty and it’s fairly inexpensive on FastTech. I have 3 of them because someday they’ll be difficult to find and I always want one on hand!!

$31.43 (Free Shipping) Authentic Steam Crave Aromamizer Supreme V2 RDTA Atomizer (Supreme V2, 5ml, 25mm, SS + Glass, Gun Metal) at m.FastTech.com
 
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Yes I think each has their advantages and disadvantages, I kind of assume (since I don't own one) that it's somewhat likely that they're RDA like in nature with the advantage that you can drip instead of fill, have slightly larger capacity compared to an RDA (unless you are using it atop a squonk mod).

It's really going to come down to personal preference, just not between TYPES but between individual atomizers. I enjoy the two RDAs I have but they aren't squonk capable and yes, the flavor can be fantastic, and the annoyance of needing to drip a fair amount can make them not useful for certain times-- for me.

But if you want to try either I would consider what style of vaper you are and look for either that are well reviewed, and then decide which one you'd like to try.

If you are new to building, RDAs and (I assume to some extent) RDTAs may be easier to wick, but it may be easier to start out with a single coil RDA or RDTA unless you just happen to be mechanically inclined, it's a bit easier. You also want to consider flavor/clouds, types of builds, these will all play a role.

Just as there is no "worst" anything in vaping (although there are those that will claim there are) there is no "best" anything either. Only "best for me, right now, at this stage of my vaping."

Good luck,

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I prefer RTA's over RDA's and RDTA's. I don't like dripping and I like the (typically) higher juice capacity. To me, RTA's function a lot like using a tank with pre-built coils but my coils last a lot longer, it's cheaper, I can control resistance/gauge/wicking/airflow, and I don't have to worry about compatibility.
 

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I'd also suggest if you go RTA, get a true RTA. I'd personally avoid a tank that accepts coils and has a build deck. While many are okay, in my opinion (I know many may differ), a RTA only or a tank only does what it does best, while a hybrid is generally just okay at either.
 

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I'd also suggest if you go RTA, get a true RTA. I'd personally avoid a tank that accepts coils and has a build deck. While many are okay, in my opinion (I know many may differ), a RTA only or a tank only does what it does best, while a hybrid is generally just okay at either.
Solid advice, that. It's true in pretty much all areas, which is why we don't have flying cars. Heck, we can't even make a plane that flies well in different performance regimes; viz. high-speed aerial chase, low-and-slow ground attack, PGM bombing runs, V/STOL rough-strip capability and carrier catapult launches, which is why the F-35 is the biggest boondoggle in the history of military project cost overruns, a genre dating back to Og the flint knapper informing Ug the tribe leader chiseling the special war rocks was going to take longer than expected. This has been going on a while, too: check out a history of Heiron II's Syracusia, antiquity's largest seagoing vessel, and one designed to be a combination freighter, troop transport, battleship and royal barge. (Spoiler: it didn't work out well).

Yes, by all means, get a machine designed and optimized for a single purpose.Things designed to do all things well generally do what they do poorly and never quite manage to attain even marginal competence in some of the design criteria. This is probably why I like RTAs better than RDTAs. An RDTA, really, is nothing more than an Old Skool genny-type topper intended for soft wick rather than stainless mesh (or bamboo or ceramic, whatever) and updated a bit to withstand more than 6 or 7 watts of power. Except for the die-hard purists, Gennys have now been pretty much replaced by the now-standard bottom coil, air-over-vacuum RTA. Why? It's a better design: easier to build, capable of being much cloudier and, having now had sufficient time to develop technique (heresy alert!) are the equal in flavor...
 

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Solid advice, that. It's true in pretty much all areas, which is why we don't have flying cars. Heck, we can't even make a plane that flies well in different performance regimes; viz. high-speed aerial chase, low-and-slow ground attack, PGM bombing runs, V/STOL rough-strip capability and carrier catapult launches, which is why the F-35 is the biggest boondoggle in the history of military project cost overruns, a genre dating back to Og the flint knapper informing Ug the tribe leader chiseling the special war rocks was going to take longer than expected. This has been going on a while, too: check out a history of Heiron II's Syracusia, antiquity's largest seagoing vessel, and one designed to be a combination freighter, troop transport, battleship and royal barge. (Spoiler: it didn't work out well).

Yes, by all means, get a machine designed and optimized for a single purpose.Things designed to do all things well generally do what they do poorly and never quite manage to attain even marginal competence in some of the design criteria. This is probably why I like RTAs better than RDTAs. An RDTA, really, is nothing more than an Old Skool genny-type topper intended for soft wick rather than stainless mesh (or bamboo or ceramic, whatever) and updated a bit to withstand more than 6 or 7 watts of power. Except for the die-hard purists, Gennys have now been pretty much replaced by the now-standard bottom coil, air-over-vacuum RTA. Why? It's a better design: easier to build, capable of being much cloudier and, having now had sufficient time to develop technique (heresy alert!) are the equal in flavor...

You're right, it's funny years ago the best thing at one time was a clearo that had the wicks coming out and down to the bottom of the tank (can't remember what they were called, the improved version had a rotating drip, someone I know remembers these). They were replaced by bottom coils, which gave more/better flavor.

Now were back to top coils in RDTA's, which were supposedly inferior to a bottom coils due to wicking and as many said, since the coil is submerged (wick) at all times and is a short distance , the flavoring is stronger and dry hits are almost eliminated.

Vaping goes in circles just like fashion, although in vaping it seems to be much faster. I think it has a lot to do with the speed of things coming out, people either don't know the older stuff or we forget because we see so many "evolutions" so fast.
 

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Flavor is usually a touch better with rdta simply because the coils are topside in most but not carry friendly imo. Top af rtas are where I found my happy place. You'll just have to jump in and find your happy place.

For 2 days I am owner of rta (or is it RTDA) that have coils topside...can be easily top filled with 4 ml of juice ... can be build as single or dual coil...deliver exceptional flavor ... and is very carry friendly... not even single spitback or gurgling... wick like a champ... no trace of leak when filling it up or using....I can place it upside down or side for 10 or more minutes without any leaking... and all of that for just $14.95 :w00t::):):)

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For 2 days I am owner of rta (or is it RTDA) that have coils topside...can be easily top filled with 4 ml of juice ... can be build as single or dual coil...deliver exceptional flavor ... and is very carry friendly... not even single spitback or gurgling... wick like a champ... no trace of leak when filling it up or using....I can place it upside down or side for 10 or more minutes without any leaking... and all of that for just $14.95 :w00t::):):)

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I've read there are a few carry friendly rdtas, seems you found one. Kudos
 

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For 2 days I am owner of rta (or is it RTDA) that have coils topside...can be easily top filled with 4 ml of juice ... can be build as single or dual coil...deliver exceptional flavor ... and is very carry friendly... not even single spitback or gurgling... wick like a champ... no trace of leak when filling it up or using....I can place it upside down or side for 10 or more minutes without any leaking... and all of that for just $14.95 :w00t::):):)

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That one is an RDTA, and I am glad you like it. Vape on and vape happy.
 

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You're right, it's funny years ago the best thing at one time was a clearo that had the wicks coming out and down to the bottom of the tank (can't remember what they were called, the improved version had a rotating drip, someone I know remembers these). They were replaced by bottom coils, which gave more/better flavor.

Now were back to top coils in RDTA's, which were supposedly inferior to a bottom coils due to wicking and as many said, since the coil is submerged (wick) at all times and is a short distance , the flavoring is stronger and dry hits are almost eliminated.

Vaping goes in circles just like fashion, although in vaping it seems to be much faster. I think it has a lot to do with the speed of things coming out, people either don't know the older stuff or we forget because we see so many "evolutions" so fast.
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