RBA build for LESS cloud

[psho]

Hi All!

I'm looking to get into RBA/RTA building, but it seems that every post I read regarding rebuilables are only concerned with sub ohms, micro coils, and producing the largest clouds possible. While that is fine in the privacy of my own home, it doesn't bode well for my stealth vaping at work, where I'm basically looking to produce the least amount of vapor possible while still mainting a decent throat hit. Another thing I noticed was that most builds that I see recommend that I drop my nicotine level down from my usual 18mg to around 6mg...or sometimes even 3mg or 0mg.

So my question is, can I make the switch from my TH friendly, minimal cloud producing Protank setup with 18mg juice...to an RBA/RTA setup that can produce the same results? My main reason for switching setups, besides the hobby of it, is lowered cost of upkeep.

(I'm looking into getting a Kayfun clone BTW)

Thanks in advance!

 

[ixamtheocean]

First off, the Kayfun is not a "cloud chasing" atomizer. It is phenomenal for flavor. Secondly, rebuildable atomizers do not automatically equal sub-ohming and blowing enough vapor to elect a new Pope. If you are using a Protank (presumably a 1.5-2.0 ohm coil) you can make a rebuildable to the same specs. I have my Kayfun running at 1.7 ohms right now on a Nemesis clone and it is just wonderful. It's all about how you build, not what you build on.

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[DC2]

You can run an RBA at any ohms you want.

Lower ohms = more vapor
Higher ohms = less vapor

The End.

 

[psho]

Lol, good answer and easy to remember! I've been reading that a lot of people have to lower their nicotine content in rebuilable drippers...a lot are saying to never go above 6mg. Does this also apply to the "more vaper/less vaper" rule? Are they lowering their nic content just because they are using lower ohms?

 

[K_Tech]

Lol, good answer and easy to remember! I've been reading that a lot of people have to lower their nicotine content in rebuilable drippers...a lot are saying to never go above 6mg. Does this also apply to the "more vaper/less vaper" rule? Are they lowering their nic content just because they are using lower ohms?

I'll just say that a Kanger Protank2 with a stock head at 1.5 ohms and a Kayfun with a 1.5 ohm microcoil are two completely different beasts.

It's not all about the ohms, although resistance is a contributing factor. With a well-wrapped coil and a cotton wick, you're going to be "processing" more liquid in the Kayfun than you can in the Protank because it will wick better and vape better, and generally speaking, you'll be able to push the Kayfun to higher power levels than you can a Protank.

 

[Cool-breeze]

Rebuilding typically gives bigger clouds because of surface area. My 2 cents would say grab a kf. Use it at home. Once you are comfortable building coils learn to build your pt coils. You could go straight to building the pt coils but they are annoying by comparison and not what I would suggest learning on. After tinkering with the kf you might discover its cloud is permissible for your work needs. As far as the nic goes because rebuilding typically gives a larger surface area, which vaporizes more liquid it also vaporizes more nicotine. If you are use to 18mg then using 12 mg on a single coil is doable. 12mg on a dual coil at any ohms would be brutal by comparison. Also your body will adjust to lower nic a lot easier than you think. I dropped from 12 to 6 because I had more time I could vape and I like to chain vape. After a week of 6 I tossed in some 12 and it was very harsh to me and quickly gave me a headache. Fun fact.

 

[The Ministry]

Moved over to RBA forum

 

[toddrhodes]

Rebuilding typically gives bigger clouds because of surface area. My 2 cents would say grab a kf. Use it at home. Once you are comfortable building coils learn to build your pt coils. You could go straight to building the pt coils but they are annoying by comparison and not what I would suggest learning on. After tinkering with the kf you might discover its cloud is permissible for your work needs. As far as the nic goes because rebuilding typically gives a larger surface area, which vaporizes more liquid it also vaporizes more nicotine. If you are use to 18mg then using 12 mg on a single coil is doable. 12mg on a dual coil at any ohms would be brutal by comparison. Also your body will adjust to lower nic a lot easier than you think. I dropped from 12 to 6 because I had more time I could vape and I like to chain vape. After a week of 6 I tossed in some 12 and it was very harsh to me and quickly gave me a headache. Fun fact.

Very good advice here. I'm glad I started on Kayfuns since they have to be the easiest RBA to learn on. PT's are, as was said, annoying by comparison. Not hard once you get the hang of it, and they can do well if you don't mind the tight draw.

Another thing you can try for less vapor is to choke off a little airflow on an RBA/RDA, it will intensify the flavor a little but produce less overall vapor.

Good luck!

 

[steel bender]

Air flow is huge. I have been increasing my resistance, for longer battery life and also to reduce vapor while working a little. Problem is, I like an airy vape (took a drill to my kayfuns), so even at 1.6 ohms, they still produce some nice clouds.

 

[mujuru]

Lol, good answer and easy to remember! I've been reading that a lot of people have to lower their nicotine content in rebuilable drippers...a lot are saying to never go above 6mg. Does this also apply to the "more vaper/less vaper" rule? Are they lowering their nic content just because they are using lower ohms?

These things are all about personal preference... IMHO, there are no hard fast rules (with the exception of battery safety, etc.). I use a dripper (dual coil @0.6ohms) and I vape 18mg juice all day. I'm not a cloud chaser, per se, but i simply like the "fullness" of the vapor with my builds... but it ends up producing quite a bit of vapor.

I'd say that things really depend on what type of set up you're currently using... vs what you're moving into. For instance, I recently built a tri coil on my Cerberus and find that 18mg is a bit much for me... So i'll likely step down as to the Nic when i vape this set up. I THOUGHT that i might need to step down my Nic when going from single coil to dual, but when i tried it, i found a very happy experience with dual coils and 18mg. It wasn't until I tried running tri-coil that I found 18mg too much.

My experience tells me that moving from a Protank to a Kayfun will yield a pretty similar experience, if you build your Kayfun similar to your Protank. I've never used a Protank, but the Kayfuns aren't known for their vapor production (not to say they don't or can't if you set them up to)... Notwithstanding, you might find that your Kayfun will operate more efficiently in Nic delivery and vapor production as your builds permit over the Protank running stock coils.

As far as cost of upkeep... i'm pretty sure you're not going to see an uptick in savings, assuming you're already rebuilding your Protank. If you're buying premade coils, then i can see a savings coming your way as you start to rebuild. But the savings is coming from rebuilding, not the atty you're rebuilding on... cost of rebuilding on a Kayfun will cost you no less that rebuilding your Protank (notwithstanding durability issues).

Also.. for less clouds, you'll want PG heavy juices. I do not believe that Nic content effects vapor productions one way or the other.