Question about pass-through...

[pipskicks]

I already am boggled by how the battery charger has about 3" of cable on it

I was looking at pictures of the pass-through, and they looked very similar. The reason I ask is because I DO sit by my computer, but my USB port is a good 2 feet away or so, and the pass-through would be kind of useless if I had to bring my face within a few inches of the USB port...

Wondering how long the pass-through's everyone has are. I was looking at a picture of Joye's model and it looks like the cords are REALLY short...

 

[quasimod]

If you get a PT withOUT an in-line battery, you will also need a power source that puts out enough Amps to operate it, like one of those 2 Amp wall-warts from madvapes.com. Since it plugs into any standard outlet, you can use an extension cord to bring it as close as you like. MVapes sells a no-batt PT that looks like it has a nice, heavy cord, as well.

This solution keeps you from having the additional headache of dealing with a crappy little battery... one less thing to worry about, and solid, consistent performance.

Your computer's USB only puts out half an Amp., so if you must use that one you will need to get a PT with an in-line battery to provide the Amperage.

 

[pipskicks]

If you get a PT withOUT an in-line battery, you will also need a power source that puts out enough Amps to operate it, like one of those 2 Amp wall-warts from madvapes.com. Since it plugs into any standard outlet, you can use an extension cord to bring it as close as you like. MVapes sells a no-batt PT that looks like it has a nice, heavy cord, as well.

This solution keeps you from having the additional headache of dealing with a crappy little battery... one less thing to worry about, and solid, consistent performance.

Your computer's USB only puts out half an Amp., so if you must use that one you will need to get a PT with an in-line battery to provide the Amperage.

I'm a little confused, seemed like the USB pass-through plugged straight into the atty. Am I wrong and you need to use the battery AND USB port? That would make much less sense.

I think maybe you got the best idea right there, if you're by a computer, I think you got an outlet. And I sure as hell don't need to have to lean over towards outlets to take a drag

I will look into those PT's now. I probably won't jump on it just yet (too much at once) but I was looking at the USB one, and although it looked tempting to smoke at home without a battery, I also want it to be practical.

 

[quasimod]

Well, the atomizer screws onto one end, and the USB plug is plugged into a USB port of some kind. That is where the power comes from, but not all 5V USB ports are the same Amperage. Most chargers (phone, battery, etc.) and most computers put out 500 mA, or milliamperes, which is half an Amp. An atty needs at least twice that much to work, and 3 times as much to work well (around 1500 mA, or 1.5 Amps). That is why they also make PT's with a battery box spliced into the wire somewhere... The battery provides the Amps and the USB port keeps the battery charged up. I think it's an awful design concept, so I suggested the type that has no battery. Just bear in mind that the "no battery" type will NOT work unless you plug it into a power source that provides high enough Amperage, like that 2Amp wall-wart I mentioned. (2 Amps is usually seen written as 2000 mA, because Engineers aren't normal).

 

[pipskicks]

Hopefully I will understand this now, there is an outlet one and a usb one with a battery attached. Is the wall wart a reliable part? This is so much more difficult than I thought.

 

[Switched]

There are 2 types of pass thrus:

• direct means there are no in line battery
• indirect means there is a in line battery.

Those fitted with a battery you are vaping off the battery and not the USB port perse. The port is merely charging your battery. If your battery is dead, your PT does not work until the battery has charged sufficiently to be able to fire the atty. It also acts as a fuse between you and your computer. You are vaping at 3.7V not 5V

Those without a batetry are known as "direct" pass thrus. As they are powered off your USB port at 5V. Some computer USM ports do not put out enough power to truly fire the atty. The 510 requires a minimum of 1.5A to fire, some USB ports put this curent out, some don't.

They sell wall plug converters. 120V AC to 5V DC. The output should read 5V 2000mA or 5V 2A. You may get buy with 1500mAh or 1.5A but nothing less. This is where you will get your true 5V vaping experience, not off your computer.

The USB PT was designed to save on your batteries while at the PC. With the advent of high drain battery mods, this device is quickly becominga dinosaur.

 

[tranced]

I gotta respectfully disagree with the last statement Switched. I just can't get into the thicker feel of the mods, it just doesn't feel "right" with me. Call me crazy, I love my direct passthrough connected to a usb battery pack in my pocket. A well-managed passthrough cord doesn't bother me but the thickness of the battery mods does. I bet there are a lot of usb passthrough people out there that just can't get into the mods.

 

[Switched]

The point I was trying to make was:

In the day of a regular 180 mAh battery, a single battery charger etc... folks used to use a pass thru vice using their sticks, which they saved for when they were away from the PC.

Since having built or acquired longer lasting battery devices, my pass thrus get seldom used these days, while at the PC. e.g the eGo with a 6hr batt life or even my 14500 parallel box mod that lasts 16hrs. Hey I am sitting at a PC no need for a PT that plugs into a USB port that does not deliver 5V like most people believe and vendors profess. Plug that baby in the wall with an AC/DC converter at 2A or 2000mA and then tell me the difference.

... and not all power packs are created equal. Unless they put out 1500mA or better they won't fire a direct PT, they might fire an in line one though, although I have never tried as I do not own one. That being said, understanding the technical aspect of an in line PT, a power pack can and will keep the battery charged, provided that the current draw is not greater than the charging capacity of the power pack., because if it is, sooner or later you will have to stop vaping on the PT so the battery can be charged. Most folks believe their in line PTs are drawing from the USB port, they are not. Even if the inline was plugged into an AC/DC power converter (wall adapter) the atty is still being fired off the battery. However, their is enough ouput to keep the battery charged.

With regards to battery mods, you would be surprised at the size of some of these devices these days. An example of an oversized device would indeed be a Silver Bullet. I can't see myself having to deal with a cord all the time.

 

[pipskicks]

From reading this it sure seems like a battery mod would be a much better investment.

It seems to give long enough battery life to negate the need for a PT, and there are all sorts of sizes/power. I don't know if I would rush to get one, but charging these batteries are getting annoying, maybe after I save up some money from not buying tobacco I'll get a battery mod to try out eventually

 

[Switched]

From reading this it sure seems like a battery mod would be a much better investment.

It seems to give long enough battery life to negate the need for a PT, and there are all sorts of sizes/power. I don't know if I would rush to get one, but charging these batteries are getting annoying, maybe after I save up some money from not buying tobacco I'll get a battery mod to try out eventually

Don't worry my friend we were all there at one point in time. The good news is that even in the short time that I have been vaping, the advancements have been exponential.

 

[pipskicks]

Don't worry my friend we were all there at one point in time. The good news is that even in the short time that I have been vaping, the advancements have been exponential.

I know, and I'm doing my best to keep patient. I have a PCC on the way, and my battery went dead at my smoke break and I left the spare upstairs, somehow I just used will power to wait it out

You are correct though, it is looking like the modding is becoming a lot more prevalent and I am with you thinking these advancements are only going WAY up.

I still remember about 2 years ago or so the tobacco store owner showed me one of the first autos that came out. I was so turned off by the taste, useability and price that I was shocked to see just how much better this has really gotten. Then even more shocked seeing that most smokers aren't looking into it, actually saddens me thinking about the price and superiority of vaping vs smoking tobacco.

 

[Belhade]

I use an indirect USB PT at my computer; it works just fine plugged into my keyboard's built-in USB hub. I leave it plugged in all the time so it's always recharging. This allows me to leave batteries in my car's PCC and an untethered battery or two in the house for when I'm not sitting here.

Of course, this PT can disconnect from the battery, so I can roam with it, but I dislike constantly plugging and unplugging mini-USBs; I'm afraid I'll break the port out of the battery.

 

[DaveP]

The answer is something on the order of a Joye Ego which uses 510 atomizers, making the batteries interchangeable. You can use the Joye 650mah battery or the 180mah battery as your needs dictate. Both fit in a pocket nicely. The Ego battery will last you all day at work. The average life is 8-12 hours on a charge.

As far as chargers go, you have to maintain a 510 charger for the 180mah batts and an Ego charger for the Ego batts. There is an adapter available that lets you charge your Ego batt on a 510 charger, but it takes about 4 hours to charge one. It's good for backup. You can't charge the 510 batt on an Ego charger. It will overcharge and destroy the battery.

There are also USB charger cables that will fit into a DC/USB charger, AC/USB charger, and your USB port on the computer. These are short cables that are designed for charging. You plug the usb connector into the appropriate charger for AC, DC, or USB charging.

My 510 USB pass through has a 50" length from the USB connector to the atty connector. It's designed for what you are looking for with its long length. I got mine at www.cignot.com . Before I got the Ego, I would use the USB pass through with its battery charged up when I was watching TV or cutting grass and working outside the house. The batt end fits in your pocket and there's enough cord to reach a couple of feet over your head.