Panasonic NCR18650PF 2900mah

[SacredNut]

Will these be compatible/safe for use in an innokin VTR?

VTR wants unprotected batteries. Are all NCR unprotected?

I'm currently using red efest IMR18650 2000 mah now and want longer lasting batteries (and an extra back up pair)

 

[Ryedan]

You're good with those batteries and the VTR. They are not protected from Panasonic, so unless protection was added by a supplier they are still not. The VTR at 15 watts will use 6 amps max and those batts are rated for 10A. I think you are going to like them

Vape on SacredNut ...

 

[Rickajho]

In general you want to avoid protected cell batteries in electronic APV's. Some of them - like the VAMO - don't function well, if at all, with protected batteries as it's in conflict with the electronics used in the PV.

There are protected and unprotected versions of the NCR18650PF - make sure you are getting the right ones as they look identical.

 

[SacredNut]

Panasonic NCR18650B 18650 3.7V 3400mAh Rechargeable Li-ion Battery

What amp are those rated at? Those are the highest mah I've found for Panasonic and would assume these are far superior. Am I correct on that?

 

[Sl4gathor]

Panasonic NCR18650B 18650 3.7V 3400mAh Rechargeable Li-ion Battery

What amp are those rated at? Those are the highest mah I've found for Panasonic and would assume these are far superior. Am I correct on that?

Apperantly them are safe to about 39 watts, but the chemistry of the batt makes them unsuitable for vaping, sound like they get violent if there's a problem. I asked in a thread a bit lower from here, about buying the wrong batts.....

 

[Ryedan]

Panasonic NCR18650B 18650 3.7V 3400mAh Rechargeable Li-ion Battery

What amp are those rated at? Those are the highest mah I've found for Panasonic and would assume these are far superior. Am I correct on that?

They are good to 6.8 amps. As I said in my last post, the VTR at 15 watts will draw 6 amps max from the battery. These two batteries are so close in performance at 6A, IMO it's a wash. Here's a performance chart for both at 5A. The difference is IMO negligible and I suspect the 18650PF will last more charge cycles, but that's just my opinion.

Between these two, I would get the ones that are easier to get and not worry about it. If I had the same access to both, I would get the PFs for the higher amp draw capability, but that's just my opinion. You can't go wrong either way though

 

[Ryedan]

Apperantly them are safe to about 39 watts, but the chemistry of the batt makes them unsuitable for vaping, sound like they get violent if there's a problem. I asked in a thread a bit lower from here, about buying the wrong batts.....

Sl4gathor, I would say these batteries are safe up to about 16 watts in a regulated mod and about 0.7 ohms on a mechanical mod. This keeps them under their maximum amp draw in each. I don't understand how you got the 39 watts number.

As for their safety, here's a video of what happens to a INR1860A when it's shorted. These are INR18650b's, but I suspect they are not much different.

Actually, they're PDG