Hey guys, been out the vape game for awhile. I always got Sony batts when I vaped years back. I was looking at 3,000 Mah but 10 Amp continuous. I will be running on an Rx 200 so 3 batteries & I usually use .5 ohm coil. So if I go off this does it mean I shouldn't vape above 90W? I suck at Math lol. I'm wanting longing lasting batteries & I'm thinking 10 Amp is ok since there are 3 & I don't vape too high, I do have a Clieto 120 that I like at 85 watts here & there so am I cutting it close & should just get 20 Amp batteries?! Sorry all, been along time!
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I always choose more amps vs more MAH.... rather swap drained batteries than vent weak ones.
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With a regulated mod like the RX200, don't worry about coil resistance. Coil resistance is irrelevant with a regulated mod.
With a regulated mod, the wattage setting that you use determines the battery amp rating that you need.
Not sure what battery with 10 amps you are talking about. About the lowest amp rating with a modern high drain battery (not high capacity) that I'm aware of is 15A.
So with three 15A batteries in the RX200 you'll be good up to 135 watts. And with 3000mAh per battery, you'll get longer run time than with a higher amp battery with a lower mAh capacity.
* Side note. I have an RX200, and unless yours is the DNA model, I can tell you it's chip is not a very battery efficient chip. It also seems to have a higher voltage cutoff compared to other regulated mods.
WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD:
(wattage doubles using 2 batteries; triples using 3)
Up to 45W:
Up to 60W:
Up to 75W:
Up to 90W:
With a regulated mod, the wattage setting that you use determines the battery amp rating that you need.
Not sure what battery with 10 amps you are talking about. About the lowest amp rating with a modern high drain battery (not high capacity) that I'm aware of is 15A.
So with three 15A batteries in the RX200 you'll be good up to 135 watts. And with 3000mAh per battery, you'll get longer run time than with a higher amp battery with a lower mAh capacity.
* Side note. I have an RX200, and unless yours is the DNA model, I can tell you it's chip is not a very battery efficient chip. It also seems to have a higher voltage cutoff compared to other regulated mods.
-If you use a good quality 15 amp CDR battery like the Samsung 30Q or Sony VTC6, then you are good up to 45 watts per battery; 90 watts using two; 135 watts for three batteries.
-If you use a good quality 20 amp CDR battery like the LG HG2 or Samsung 25R then you are good for 60 watts per battery. If using a 2-battery regulated mod, you're good for 120 watts as you have two batteries. If you are using a 3-battery mod, you're good for 180.
-If you use a good quality 20 amp CDR battery like the LG HG2 or Samsung 25R then you are good for 60 watts per battery. If using a 2-battery regulated mod, you're good for 120 watts as you have two batteries. If you are using a 3-battery mod, you're good for 180.
-If you use a single 25 amp CDR battery like the Sony VTC5A, then you are good for 75 watts per battery, 150 watts for two batteries, and 225 watts with three.
-If you use a single 30 amp CDR battery like the LG HB6 you are good up to 90 watts; with a pair of 30 amp CDR batteries you could safely do 180 watts.
-If you use a single 30 amp CDR battery like the LG HB6 you are good up to 90 watts; with a pair of 30 amp CDR batteries you could safely do 180 watts.
WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD:
(wattage doubles using 2 batteries; triples using 3)
Up to 45W:
Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR
Up to 60W:
LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR
LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
Up to 75W:
LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR
LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Up to 90W:
LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR
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With a regulated mod like the RX200, don't worry about coil resistance. Coil resistance is irrelevant with a regulated mod.
With a regulated mod, the wattage setting that you use determines the battery amp rating that you need.
Not sure what battery with 10 amps you are talking about. About the lowest amp rating with a high drain battery (not high capacity) that I'm aware of is 15A.
So with three 15A batteries in the RX200 you'll be good up to 135 watts. And with 3000mAh per battery, you'll get longer run time than with a higher amp battery with a lower mAh capacity.
* Side note. I have an RX200, and unless yours is the DNA model, I can tell you it's chip is not a very battery efficient chip. It also seems to have a higher voltage cutoff compared to other regulated mods.
-If you use a good quality 15 amp CDR battery like the Samsung 30Q or Sony VTC6, then you are good up to 45 watts per battery; 90 watts using two; 135 watts for three batteries.
-If you use a good quality 20 amp CDR battery like the LG HG2 or Samsung 25R then you are good for 60 watts per battery. If using a 2-battery regulated mod, you're good for 120 watts as you have two batteries. If you are using a 3-battery mod, you're good for 180.
-If you use a single 25 amp CDR battery like the Sony VTC5A, then you are good for 75 watts per battery, 150 watts for two batteries, and 225 watts with three.
-If you use a single 30 amp CDR battery like the LG HB6 you are good up to 90 watts; with a pair of 30 amp CDR batteries you could safely do 180 watts.
WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD:
(wattage doubles using 2 batteries; triples using 3)
Up to 45W:
Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR
Up to 60W:
LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR
LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
Up to 75W:
LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR
LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Up to 90W:
LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR
Sweet, thanks that's a cool chart! The ones I wanted were
18650 LG INR18650MJ1 3500mAh High Discharge which was 10 Amp. I always got Sony or Samsung in the past but I am sitting on 10 Samsung Q that don't work & were crap after barely 3 months. I'm betting I just had bad luck, never had an issue but I'm leary now lol. I got them from IMR. Never gotten batteries from anywhere except them & Illumn. Gonna try Illumn this time. How do I dispose of your dead/junk batteries? Just wanna be safe all around!!
With a regulated mod like the RX200, don't worry about coil resistance. Coil resistance is irrelevant with a regulated mod.
With a regulated mod, the wattage setting that you use determines the battery amp rating that you need.
Not sure what battery with 10 amps you are talking about. About the lowest amp rating with a high drain battery (not high capacity) that I'm aware of is 15A.
So with three 15A batteries in the RX200 you'll be good up to 135 watts. And with 3000mAh per battery, you'll get longer run time than with a higher amp battery with a lower mAh capacity.
* Side note. I have an RX200, and unless yours is the DNA model, I can tell you it's chip is not a very battery efficient chip. It also seems to have a higher voltage cutoff compared to other regulated mods.
-If you use a good quality 15 amp CDR battery like the Samsung 30Q or Sony VTC6, then you are good up to 45 watts per battery; 90 watts using two; 135 watts for three batteries.
-If you use a good quality 20 amp CDR battery like the LG HG2 or Samsung 25R then you are good for 60 watts per battery. If using a 2-battery regulated mod, you're good for 120 watts as you have two batteries. If you are using a 3-battery mod, you're good for 180.
-If you use a single 25 amp CDR battery like the Sony VTC5A, then you are good for 75 watts per battery, 150 watts for two batteries, and 225 watts with three.
-If you use a single 30 amp CDR battery like the LG HB6 you are good up to 90 watts; with a pair of 30 amp CDR batteries you could safely do 180 watts.
WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD:
(wattage doubles using 2 batteries; triples using 3)
Up to 45W:
Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR
Up to 60W:
LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR
LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
Up to 75W:
LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR
LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Up to 90W:
LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR
Sorry, forgot this in my last reply. This is what got me looking at 10 Amp.
Samsung 36G 18650 3600mAh 10A Battery. Have u heard of it?
You should only use "high drain" batteries in a mod. The LG MJ1 3500 mAh and Samsung 36G 36000 mAh batteries are "high capacity/high discharge" batteries and should be used only in low drain applications like an ordinary flashlight.
Any 18650 battery with more than 3000 mAh can be considered high capacity/high discharge. A high drain battery, by today's standards, should be at least 15 amps continuous discharge rate.
Dispose of unwanted batteries by applying tape to the positive ends of the batteries, and dropping them off at a recylcle center like at Home Depot or Lowes.
Any 18650 battery with more than 3000 mAh can be considered high capacity/high discharge. A high drain battery, by today's standards, should be at least 15 amps continuous discharge rate.
Dispose of unwanted batteries by applying tape to the positive ends of the batteries, and dropping them off at a recylcle center like at Home Depot or Lowes.
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Always check Mooch's blog before choosing a battery. If you vape above 30W, always choose a battery with high amps that also provides enough run time (MAH) to let you vape for a while without changing cells.
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I'm pretty sure the mod's manual says something about the batteries it wants you to use. Why not stick to that?
If this is true, why does Mooch recommend two 10A batteries( LG MJ1 and Sanyo NCR18650GA)? I've been using MJ1s for a couple years with no problem. Of course, I vape at less than 10W.
I’d go with 15A cells. It’ll give you plenty of headroom at your power level and you can get higher mAH cells.
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I went with the Samsung
Thank you all & big thanks to Baditude for all my replies & great answers! I honestly didn't even realize high drain vs high discharge & all that. I'm gonna get a few Samsung Q as I'm eventually gonna drip & few LG He4. I posted this 1/2 asleep & if I was awake I would've realized I need higher Amp for when I drip & use my unregulated mod lol.. Sorry, feel like a noob all over again lol. Appreciate you all & it's glad to be back!
Those are not reliable.... Usually not very good information. I had a mod once that the manufacturer said to only use 40 amp cd batteries. There are none...
The reason why the good 10A batteries (LG MJ1, Panasonic/Sanyo NCR18650GA) are best used at under 7A/21W per battery is because their voltage sag is pretty huge in comparison to the 3000mAh batteries (Samsung 30Q, Sony/Murata VTC6, LG HG2), which translates to the fact you'll get better performance from any of those 3 choices if you are above that limitation. But that's only in theory because, in practice, if you chain vape a lot you'll soon find that this limitation might actually be closer to only 5A/15W, and, because 90W divided by 3 batteries in the RX200 equals 30W, that's why you can forget about using 10A batteries.
In the video below, Mooch explains in bubbly detail about differences between the 3 aforementioned battery choices in the 3000mAh ballpark.
In the video below, Mooch explains in bubbly detail about differences between the 3 aforementioned battery choices in the 3000mAh ballpark.
I've seen this, also. A number of manufacturers will recommend an 18650 40 amp battery, and of course as @uthinkofsomething said, there are none in the industry.
It always comes down to the application the battery(-ies) will be used. If you're using a single battery mod and you are certain that you'll never use that mod over 20 - 25 watts, a 10 amp cdr battery could work for you.
As @dripster explained above me, there are situations where the voltage sag can become an issue. In addition, as a battery ages with use, the capacity (mAh) and C rating (amp rating) can decrease by as much as 50%. So a 10 amp battery may become just a 5 amp battery. So even though you think you are a low wattage vaper, you could be pushing that 10 amp battery past its safe limits. Granted, you'd see a huge dip in performance but some stubborn people use their batteries past their prime.
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Personally, I don't see why you wouldn't want an LG HG2 for multiple battery regulated mods. 20a? 3000mah. Best of both worlds. For Real high wattage you'd need higher amps than hg2s offer, but for most applications they work well...
You don't want to be near the battery's highest rating when you vape, as others have pointed out, well you risk strain on the battery and other issues as they age. Leaving yourself some "headroom" as it is called may decrease runtime slightly but the advantage is you won't be overstressing your batteries and they will probably last longer. I have had that experience with one very high amp Sony I purchased, it has held up longer than some of my lower rated batteries (even if they are safe) even if I charge slightly more frequently. You want to balance runtime with capacity.
Also although the chart is updated, I am going to bet some of the lower amp batteries were tested earlier on, (it's just a guess) and it's not that they are "bad" necessarily but as batteries have become more powerful well there are new things to take their place, and perhaps things that will last longer (overall) and be safer (overall). That's my guess. You don't have to go nuts buying a 30 amp battery but more headroom would probably be good and also you are getting good suggestions.
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Also although the chart is updated, I am going to bet some of the lower amp batteries were tested earlier on, (it's just a guess) and it's not that they are "bad" necessarily but as batteries have become more powerful well there are new things to take their place, and perhaps things that will last longer (overall) and be safer (overall). That's my guess. You don't have to go nuts buying a 30 amp battery but more headroom would probably be good and also you are getting good suggestions.
Anna
It's akin to the reason that people don't generally buy cars with 60hp engines anymore. Gas mileage has been accomplished with engines that also offer power and acceleration. Like modern cars, it's possible with newer ecig devices to get a really good vape at lower wattage with a regulated mod if you aren't looking for clouds of impressive vapor. Of course, you won't win a vape cloud contest. I buy 3000mah batteries with 20A ratings just for the longer vape time coupled with a wide amperage cushion for my MTL vaping style.
I vape at 8W to 10W and produce equal or more vapor than my old cigarettes used to produce in smoke. The amp display on my mods varies from 2.4A to 3.4A. I get that some like huge clouds, but that's not my style. I get longer battery life as a bonus.
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With a regulated mod like the RX200, don't worry about coil resistance. Coil resistance is irrelevant with a regulated mod.
With a regulated mod, the wattage setting that you use determines the battery amp rating that you need.
Not sure what battery with 10 amps you are talking about. About the lowest amp rating with a modern high drain battery (not high capacity) that I'm aware of is 15A.
So with three 15A batteries in the RX200 you'll be good up to 135 watts. And with 3000mAh per battery, you'll get longer run time than with a higher amp battery with a lower mAh capacity.
* Side note. I have an RX200, and unless yours is the DNA model, I can tell you it's chip is not a very battery efficient chip. It also seems to have a higher voltage cutoff compared to other regulated mods.
-If you use a good quality 15 amp CDR battery like the Samsung 30Q or Sony VTC6, then you are good up to 45 watts per battery; 90 watts using two; 135 watts for three batteries.
-If you use a good quality 20 amp CDR battery like the LG HG2 or Samsung 25R then you are good for 60 watts per battery. If using a 2-battery regulated mod, you're good for 120 watts as you have two batteries. If you are using a 3-battery mod, you're good for 180.
-If you use a single 25 amp CDR battery like the Sony VTC5A, then you are good for 75 watts per battery, 150 watts for two batteries, and 225 watts with three.
-If you use a single 30 amp CDR battery like the LG HB6 you are good up to 90 watts; with a pair of 30 amp CDR batteries you could safely do 180 watts.
WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD:
(wattage doubles using 2 batteries; triples using 3)
Up to 45W:
Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR
Up to 60W:
LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR
LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
Up to 75W:
LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR
LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Up to 90W:
LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR
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