New To Vaping. Avid Hookah Smoker

[oonej]

Hey guys new member

I've been doing a lot of research and getting mildly confused with all of this.

My background: I've smoked hookah for the past 9 years. I love it, it tastes good and a great relaxation after work.

Me and my girlfriend are looking to move forward with our lives and with the expensive tobacco we have looking into cutting back / stopping all the hookah smoking. Not only for our health but for financial reasons (new house). We were spending close to 300 bucks a month on hookah (shisha).

We both smoke a lot and almost all day. My girlfriend works from home and I smoke on my lunch break since i work close to home

Unfortunately a hookah is not work-friendly lol.

My question for the general forum population is "What would give us the best results similar to that of a hookah." I've researched for quiet a while and came across some other people looking for the same thing and mostly opinions are given.

I've heard that this setup is good but want to get more feed back before purchasing my "e-cig."

KGO V.V. 650mAh - KGO VV 650mAh
EGO Vision clearomizers LR 2.1-2.4ohm - Kanger T3
Velvet Vapors - Home - flavors

Although the Kanger says it can't use 100% VG. So i'm trying to figure out where to go from here. I want bellows of smoke, not too harsh on the throat and easy cleaning and setup. Since we do smoke a lot, a long lasting battery would be ideal. From what I've read the KGO will last long enough for a day of smoking (with breaks).

Any advice to cut the hookah habbit and move to an e-cig since the prices seem to be a lot lower. Another question - if you guys decide to read this far down. How much money do you think we would save from getting an e-cig vs the hookah. 1 box of tobacco lasts us about 2-3 days at (14 dollars a box)

Thanks for all your answers and support!
Hope all is well
Oonej

 

[AttyPops]

e-cigs don't taste like cigs.
They don't taste like hookah either.

They are what they are.

That said, there's several setups that will give you vapor but it's complicated to explain and frankly, you're about to get 100 different recommendations from 100 different people.

You'll need battery power though. Stay away from the cig-a-likes if you're trying to vaporize a lot of juice quickly. Get a "fat bat" of some type. Variable voltage. And if you check reviews/specs...get the ones with higher amp limits.

You'll need to do some research. If you're not electronically savvy, stay away from the all-mechanical setups with SLR right now. That could be for later with more experience. With those, one short and you could have problems...a fire or worse.

So get a VV battery setup with the most amps. Then we can discuss what to screw on it. Start with "normal" stuff so you don't get overwhelmed. Like atomizers and cartos/clearos. People will recommend all sorts of tanks and RBAs but ....it's bad advice for someone that never even used an e-cig before..IMHO. So at least get some normal cartos/clearos for having around.

 

[oonej]

So is what I posted a decent setup? 30-70 bucks is a good start to make sure I enjoy it before going all in.

 

[oonej]

e-cigs don't taste like cigs.
They don't taste like hookah either.

They are what they are. I understand this.
Just looking for a hookah alternative. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

That said, there's several setups that will give you vapor but it's complicated to explain and frankly, you're about to get 100 different recommendations from 100 different people.
I'm looking for this. As a lot of people tend to have good opinions and I like opinions on things since I don't really know much about this.

You'll need battery power though. Stay away from the cig-a-likes if you're trying to vaporize a lot of juice quickly. Get a "fat bat" of some type. Variable voltage. And if you check reviews/specs...get the ones with higher amp limits.
What is considered a "Fat bat" and what is the highest amp limits I should be looking for? Assuming you mean something like the [h=1]eGo-V V2 Mega 1200mAh with variable voltage up to 6v ?[/h]
You'll need to do some research. If you're not electronically savvy, stay away from the all-mechanical setups with SLR right now. That could be for later with more experience. With those, one short and you could have problems...a fire or worse.
I am tech savvy - (Computer Scientist) but if things can explode, catch fire, etc... i would prefer to avoid this as my gf will be using this as well and she is not tech savvy.

So get a VV battery setup with the most amps. Then we can discuss what to screw on it. Start with "normal" stuff so you don't get overwhelmed. Like atomizers and cartos/clearos. People will recommend all sorts of tanks and RBAs but ....it's bad advice for someone that never even used an e-cig before..IMHO. So at least get some normal cartos/clearos for having around.
Clearos are probably more my taste from what i've read. I do not want bad taste from the sponge stuff in cartos (at least this is what i read).

Just answering your comments to help clear the air for other viewers

 

[MrStik]

I am almost in the same boat as you. I am not and never was a cig smoker. I smoked hookah, cigars and pipes. I have hookah'd only once since getting onto vaping, and one cigar on my late friend's bday for sentimental sake.

I would suggest, if you can, go to a brick and mortar store and check out what they have. Every shop that I have been to in SoCal has a juice bar for you to try their juices. I tend to get better plumes of vapor with high VG juices. But certain juice delivery systems are not efficient with high VG. For that I use a drip atomizer or a rebuildable atomizer. You drip the juice directly onto the coil and vape.

I started vaping with an ego twist and moved to an eVic and so far settled onto an economical mechanical device (K100) with a Nimbus or IGO-W rebuildable atomizer. I easily fill the room with clouds of vapor with that setup.

Currently my favorite juices are Gooey Butter Cake, and Pair of Deuces. One is very sweet and the other is a refreshing fruit flavor.

 

[Milkhoney]

I use 100% VG because I am a cloud pig, and my Protanks and T3s don't have a problem with it as long as it's diluted a reasonable amount. Thicker VG, I just have to dry burn the heads a little sooner but I still don't have a problem with dry hits. However from reviews of people that have both, I would choose an Evod over a T3 were I starting over, and of course a Protank over either. Can't melt a Protank.

My personal suggestions, go with a larger battery, like 1000mAh that really will last most or all of the day with heavy use. "Fat batts" are basically anything bigger than a cigarette, the cigar sized eGos. Personally I like mine to be 900mAhs or more, especially with variable voltage since if you choose to use higher voltages you're draining the battery faster. 650mAh might last all day, but probably not all night as well. I'd also suggest passthroughs for you both if you're gonna be chain vaping at home, so no one's ever waiting on a battery to charge.

Cartos are pretty cheap, I say get a small box, they're great for tasting and for flavors you like but not all day long. They're also great when you're lazy and all your clearo heads need to be cleaned but you just can't be bothered, but I agree that you can taste the polyfill a bit, though it's not overwhelming for me. I swear I can taste the diffference beween a plastic clearo and a glassomizer too, it's like the difference between a beer in a can and a bottle. Can't describe the difference and I don't really mind it, just know it's there.

 

[ForeverTwoWheels]

I'm a Hookah smoker also, Id suggest getting into dripping rebuildables, that's where I get the most vapor. Hookah doesn't have much of a throat hit so a lower Nic level should work just fine. MtBakerVapor has some pretty cheap juice and you can choose highest VG ratio to give you big hookah type clouds. A Kamry K100 with a Igo-L would be a good option for the price, The Novice by Chris Creations would also be a good fit. Don't forget the batteries and charger, go with good batteries like AW IMR's. If you go with the novice I'd get at least 4 batteries, their small and only last about 45 min. I'd watch a few video's on Silica rebuildables and you will have it down in no time. I'd also get a Multimeter to measure your resistance. I use 4-5 wraps of 28AWG Kanthal for a sub ohm setup and 10 wraps touching of 30 AWG around a 18 gauge syringe needle for micro coils.

 

[AttyPops]

I'm a Hookah smoker also, Id suggest getting into dripping rebuildables, that's where I get the most vapor. Hookah doesn't have much of a throat hit so a lower Nic level should work just fine. MtBakerVapor has some pretty cheap juice and you can choose highest VG ratio to give you big hookah type clouds. A Kamry K100 with a Igo-L would be a good option for the price, The Novice by Chris Creations would also be a good fit. Don't forget the batteries and charger, go with good batteries like AW IMR's. If you go with the novice I'd get at least 4 batteries, their small and only last about 45 min. I'd watch a few video's on Silica rebuildables and you will have it down in no time. I'd also get a Multimeter to measure your resistance. I use 4-5 wraps of 28AWG Kanthal for a sub ohm setup and 10 wraps touching of 30 AWG around a 18 gauge syringe needle for micro coils.

That's good advice for an experienced vaper that wants to get into RBA's and wrapping their own coils and SLR. But:
1) SLR isn't really for complete newbies, IMO.
2) he should still have some "backup" stuff...normal cartos and such.

The T3's are fine. May get an atomizer too (like 2.3 ish ohms). Maybe a few other types of cartos or clearos. Some juice too.

Now, you may not realize it, but if A) your GF is vaping too and B) you need to charge the e-cig and still vape and C) something breaks....you'll want at least two batteries maybe more. Or look at models with swappable batteries so you can change them out. You'd have an opportunity to try two setups if they both used the same type of battery, for example.

It's hard to do in that price for multiple units, but maybe one at a time will work. Use the savings from not buying the tobacco to buy the next e-cig/backup.

As for what one...wow.
Vmax comes to mind, just off the top of my head. Next month or two, it will be another one that's common.

Nothing wrong with that K100 you linked either. Just it isn't swappable battery. That may be OK with you, you don't HAVE to swap batteries. It's just a good option in your situation since you have two people and one e-cig...so having several battery cells is an inexpensive way to keep vaping. You will need an external charger tho.

See. It's hard to make recommendations for someone with all the options available and differing "needs" and "wants".

Get a VV.
Do some research.
Get lots of juice samples.
Remember the motto: have backups, spares, backups! Stuff breaks or burns out.

See the APV section too:
APV Discussion

 

[the_vape_nerd]

Pops has given solid advice. I would like to reiterate that you do not want to be getting anything in the begining that requires you to be wrapping coils, using an ohm meter or looking at voltage charts.

A "fat batt" is really just anything other than a cig-a-like. Egos and vision spinners fall into this category.

I'd also suggest you go out and get a gas station model and give it a shot. These can be had for about 10 bucks. Know that the quality sucks and the juice will probably suck also but you can get a good idea of whether or not vaping will work for you that way.

 

[ForeverTwoWheels]

Hookah smokers are different than cigarette smokers. They usually only smoke 1 to 3 times a day for 45 minutes to an hour. It's more about relaxation and not so much about the nic fix.

 

[oonej]

Pops has given solid advice. I would like to reiterate that you do not want to be getting anything in the begining that requires you to be wrapping coils, using an ohm meter or looking at voltage charts.
Agreed. Some of this stuff being posted is overwhelming while watching videos and looking them up. lol

A "fat batt" is really just anything other than a cig-a-like. Egos and vision spinners fall into this category.
Yeah. So essentially nothing not the tiny cig-look-a-likes.

I'd also suggest you go out and get a gas station model and give it a shot. These can be had for about 10 bucks. Know that the quality sucks and the juice will probably suck also but you can get a good idea of whether or not vaping will work for you that way.
I've done this. We tried some of the e-hookahs that are blueberry flavored by Starbuzz

That's good advice for an experienced vaper that wants to get into RBA's and wrapping their own coils and SLR. But:
1) SLR isn't really for complete newbies, IMO. Very much agreed here
2) he should still have some "backup" stuff...normal cartos and such.
Backup stuff will come when I find a setup I enjoy.

The T3's are fine. May get an atomizer too (like 2.3 ish ohms). Maybe a few other types of cartos or clearos. Some juice too.

Now, you may not realize it, but if A) your GF is vaping too and B) you need to charge the e-cig and still vape and C) something breaks....you'll want at least two batteries maybe more. Or look at models with swappable batteries so you can change them out. You'd have an opportunity to try two setups if they both used the same type of battery, for example.
She will continue to smoke hookah until we find a setup we can smoke. When we do, we will both have our own ecig

It's hard to do in that price for multiple units, but maybe one at a time will work. Use the savings from not buying the tobacco to buy the next e-cig/backup.
This is the plan.

As for what one...wow.
Vmax comes to mind, just off the top of my head. Next month or two, it will be another one that's common.
Tried finding some for sale, they are a little steep in price. But they look solid. Any other good recommendations possibly cheaper? Or a pass-through. My girlfriend works on the computer all day, so having it plugged in all day wouldn't be a problem.

Nothing wrong with that K100 you linked either. Just it isn't swappable battery. That may be OK with you, you don't HAVE to swap batteries. It's just a good option in your situation since you have two people and one e-cig...so having several battery cells is an inexpensive way to keep vaping. You will need an external charger tho.
Yeah, the batteries do sound like a better way to go. Thats not an issue either. Just really interested in the smoking process. How it tastes, feels, and ease.

See. It's hard to make recommendations for someone with all the options available and differing "needs" and "wants".
I agree. Which is why I came here. Trying to find this information on my own is like trying to buy the parts to make a nuclear reactor.

Get a VV.
Do some research.
Get lots of juice samples.
Remember the motto: have backups, spares, backups! Stuff breaks or burns out.
Whats the typical life span on this stuff? How often will I need to get a new backup-replacement? Does it get expensive?

See the APV section too:
APV Discussion
Not really sure what i'm looking at here. APV's are considered what I posted in my original find no?

I use 100% VG because I am a cloud pig, (AS AM I AND MY GF) and my Protanks and T3s don't have a problem with it as long as it's diluted (NOT SURE ABOUT DILUTIONS) a reasonable amount. Thicker VG, I just have to dry burn the heads a little sooner but I still don't have a problem with dry hits ?. However from reviews of people that have both, I would choose an Evod over a T3 were I starting over, and of course a Protank over either. Can't melt a Protank. I need to worry about melting ??
Anything I need to know specifically about ProTanks?

My personal suggestions, go with a larger battery, like 1000mAh that really will last most or all of the day with heavy use. "Fat batts" are basically anything bigger than a cigarette, the cigar sized eGos. Personally I like mine to be 900mAhs or more, especially with variable voltage since if you choose to use higher voltages you're draining the battery faster. 650mAh might last all day, but probably not all night as well. I'd also suggest passthroughs for you both if you're gonna be chain vaping at home, so no one's ever waiting on a battery to charge.

Cartos are pretty cheap, I say get a small box, they're great for tasting and for flavors you like but not all day long. They're also great when you're lazy and all your clearo heads need to be cleaned but you just can't be bothered, but I agree that you can taste the polyfill a bit, though it's not overwhelming for me. I swear I can taste the diffference beween a plastic clearo and a glassomizer too, it's like the difference between a beer in a can and a bottle. Can't describe the difference and I don't really mind it, just know it's there.

Hookah smokers are different than cigarette smokers. They usually only smoke 1 to 3 times a day for 45 minutes to an hour. It's more about relaxation and not so much about the nic fix. We smoke hookah like 3-5 times a day (its bad and expensive)

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I've put replies in the comments above. I appreciate everything Soon I'll be able to pick something right for me to at least try and get accustomed to and then move to the "intermediate" e-cig devices!!

Any other comments are greatly appreciated.

Right now I'm looking at something like the VMax (preferably something a little cheaper) with a .... i'm still clueless about what to do here.... thinking a RBA is a little too tech for me right now. Something relatively simple, which is why i was thinking a clearomizer... man this stuff really is a science lol...

EDIT:
Also since I've researched... I found that VG is probably the best way for me to go. I dont need nicotine, but a small % is what i'm used to. I think the tobacco I buy now has (0.05%) nicotine content which is nill compared to a cig. I guess the type of VG brand/quality i get is based on the clearomizer / attachment I'm looking for....

 

[AttyPops]

Well, the link to the APV section was so you could check out posts for swappable battery systems if interested. There's several in all price ranges.

Basically, you can start really simply. And small. In your particular case, you probably want to skip the cig-a-likes...you're not used to that form factor anyway.

So you can start with a very basic setup and THEN upgrade. Like an eGo-twist, or some such for $20.00 ish per battery. And a bunch of the t3's and maybe an atomizer. The atomizer will let you try dripping without any hassle.

As for 100% VG....nah. I'd recommend some % of PG even if small. It makes the VG flow better. You can cut it with water too (that was what the dilution comment above was about...I think.). But some PG is helpful to get some Throat Hit (TH), particularly if real low nic.

You may wish to get some different nic strengths too. And some zero nic in the same flavors. Then you can "mix up" some stronger nic or use no-nic at will. Can't tell you exactly what %'s and how many ml...you'll have to guess. I'd plan on 4 ml per day if it was me for your 1st order. Then track usage. So for the 1st time, get a week or two's worth of juice in a few flavors.

I'd avoid too many ....complex...flavors off the top. Maybe just some of the simpler ones...like a honey tobacco flavor. Or spearmint. Or grape. If you want "banana split with everything and sprinkles" flavor, go ahead. But I'd build up some reserves 1st.

 

[Jfaria1891]

ok so you mentioned you smoke a lot.... 650mah battery aint gonna cut it
and you want clouds of vapor
and you are used to only smoking at home .. so you probably don't care if your device is larger
that being the case id shell our a few extra dollars and get an SVD
$37.21 INNOKIN iTaste SVD Telescoping Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette Battery Compartment at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
a few batteries and a charger. with your evod or protank or whatever you choose to use
the SVD will give you all the power you will need and you are likely so spend close to this amount on ago batteries anyway just to realize you want something more.

or u could go with a vamo not saving much and the SVD is much better IMO
$53.63 Vamo V3 Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Battery Compartment Set - with Nitecore I2 charger / 2*Panasonic CGR18650CH 18650 batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
*more expensive because batt and charger are included*

not saying the ego's are bad or anything but if it was me in your shoes this is what i would go / would want someone to give me for advice

just my of course.

also i recommend the EVOD and/or protank for your juice delivery as the both are hassle free and work well with high VG % juices.

also mo opinion lol don't flame me ego lovers XD

 

[oonej]

ok so you mentioned you smoke a lot.... 650mah battery aint gonna cut it
and you want clouds of vapor
and you are used to only smoking at home .. so you probably don't care if your device is larger
that being the case id shell our a few extra dollars and get an SVD
$37.21 INNOKIN iTaste SVD Telescoping Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette Battery Compartment at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
I really like this device! Seems nice and easy.. although seems like i may need to re-read my physics books to figure out amps / voltage / etc lol...
a few batteries and a charger. with your evod or protank or whatever you choose to use
any recommended websites. I've been bookmarking all my sites that sell stuff but nothing really a good site for all around stuff.

the SVD will give you all the power you will need and you are likely so spend close to this amount on ago batteries anyway just to realize you want something more.

or u could go with a vamo not saving much and the SVD is much better IMO
$53.63 Vamo V3 Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Battery Compartment Set - with Nitecore I2 charger / 2*Panasonic CGR18650CH 18650 batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
*more expensive because batt and charger are included*

not saying the ego's are bad or anything but if it was me in your shoes this is what i would go / would want someone to give me for advice

just my of course.

also i recommend the EVOD and/or protank for your juice delivery as the both are hassle free and work well with high VG % juices.
Doing some research on this stuff you mentioned here. The EVOD probably seems better. But how is the smoke from it? The protank seems like too much maintenance that i'm wanting to deal with.

also mo opinion lol don't flame me ego lovers XD

Well, the link to the APV section was so you could check out posts for swappable battery systems if interested. There's several in all price ranges.
Ah ok.

Basically, you can start really simply. And small. In your particular case, you probably want to skip the cig-a-likes...you're not used to that form factor anyway.
I was looking at the one that jfaria posted. It looks nice and seems to be a good peice to start with for future upgrades too. And the price seems reasonable.


So you can start with a very basic setup and THEN upgrade. Like an eGo-twist, or some such for $20.00 ish per battery. And a bunch of the t3's and maybe an atomizer. The atomizer will let you try dripping without any hassle.
You say a bunch? How many is a bunch, and why do i need a bunch? I'm assuming they go bad after a while? What kind of time frame does 1 T3 last?

As for 100% VG....nah. I'd recommend some % of PG even if small. It makes the VG flow better. You can cut it with water too (that was what the dilution comment above was about...I think.). But some PG is helpful to get some Throat Hit (TH), particularly if real low nic.
Do you have any personal favorite websites for flavors? Preferably something good and reasonably priced. I'm a mint + cherry (or grenadine) flavor mixture in my hookah. Although I understand that an ecig wouldn't be anything like a hookah, hoping i can get a tasty flavor similar.

You may wish to get some different nic strengths too. And some zero nic in the same flavors. Then you can "mix up" some stronger nic or use no-nic at will. Can't tell you exactly what %'s and how many ml...you'll have to guess. I'd plan on 4 ml per day if it was me for your 1st order. Then track usage. So for the 1st time, get a week or two's worth of juice in a few flavors.
For starters, nic will probably not be necessary. Might get one bottle of a flavor with some nic just to see how it tastes / feels. I'm personally not used to a lot of nic. I've never smoked a cig

I'd avoid too many ....complex...flavors off the top. Maybe just some of the simpler ones...like a honey tobacco flavor. Or spearmint. Or grape. If you want "banana split with everything and sprinkles" flavor, go ahead. But I'd build up some reserves 1st.
What is considered a "complex" flavor and makes them "complex"? And can flavors be mixed easily. Say I buy a mint and a cherry, can i put half and half and be ok?

I think i'm set on the INNOKIN iTaste SVD Telescoping Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette Battery Compartment and looking towards the EVOD or T3's.

Thanks again for all the comments. If you guys have anything to add I'll look forward to reading them. As I will be buying this most likely Saturday. Just giving a little time to get the last bit of comments in

EDIT:
Forgot to ask, where does one get the batteries for the INNOKIN iTaste SVD?
And what is the life span of T3's? EVOD? Anything in particular i need to know about these? Cleaning, reusing etc..

Thanks!

 

[AttyPops]

I like the iTaste SVD too. 5 amps max too. Not bad!

Use IMR batteries. There's hybrids too. And long discussions about people re-wrapping labels on some types (legit and not legit re-wrapping) so it gets confusing.

Basically, I'd look for AW brand IMR type batteries and just use those. The 18650's. If you want shorter ones, you can get the 18350's with that too. Takes about 30 mm off the length.

Some battery trivia...the numbers for these types are DDLL0 where DD is the diameter in mm, and LL is the length. I think 0 means round cylinder cell. So an 18650 is 18mm X 65mm where an 18350 is 18x35 mm.

Coils? Well, you can get a dud out of the box. Also, you can pop em if you over-volt them or whatever. Also, it varies a lot depending on make/model. Some juices gunk em up faster than others. Some can be cleaned, others not. But plan on a week each and see where that gets you.

I used to drip using a standard atomizer almost exclusively. This was before the "tanks" craze. Anyway, I'd plan on a new atomizer per month. Put the still-working one in a bin for "emergency" use. Sometimes got 2 months or more out of one atomizer. lol. But that's not the norm for cartos/clearos unless you rebuild them or swap the heads. And swapping heads doesn't count for my figures...so that's a new coil...almost new carto. Atomizers last longer in general, but these days with swappable carto/tank heads it's hard to explain and estimate.

Anyway, between gunking/failure/age it's best to have a few around. Say 3 each for you and better-half.

 

[oonej]

Thanks everyone to who gave suggestions and comments.
Credit goes to Jfaria1891 and Attypops

This is what I ordered

EVOD Electronic Cigarettes Round Mouth Atomizer (1.5mL) x2
Kanger Protank Clearomizer with Pyrex Glass Tank (2.5mL) x1
TrustFire 18650 3.7V 2000mAh Rechargeable Li-ion Batteries (2-Pack) x1
Nitecore I2 Lithium Li-ion Ni-MH Ni-Cd Smart Battery Charger x1
INNOKIN iTaste SVD Telescoping Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette Battery Compartment x1
EVOD Electronic Cigarettes Atomizer Heating Core (5-Pack) x1
X10 Protank Atomizer Coil Heads (5-Pack) x1

Total was 85 dollars or so...

Should be a good start!

I will be buying more atomizers/clearomizers if all goes well with these.

Just trying to figure out flavors I want!

I'll post my feed back on these when I get them in. Shipping for Hong Kong so it might be a while till they arrive lol

 

[S13cloudZ]

Honestly, I came from analog cigarettes so my experience is a little different, however I used to smoke a bit of shisha so I am aware of the fixation qualities.. I'd recommend simply looking into a clearomizer starter kit. Most of these kits will come with two batteries, two clearomizers, a wall plug with USB charger. I started out using an Njoy ecig but quickly upgraded to the halo triton starter kit and I am loving it! These will run you about 65$ though, so there are cheaper ego kits available.

As far as extra batteries, most companies you decide to go with will have options to upgrade to a variable voltage or at least 1000-1300mah range. You'll just have to do research there to find the sweet spot and what each brand has to offer.

A word of advice about the Halo triton kit: it's an amazing kit and I love it, however if you'd like to eventually step up to mods and such, it may not be the best kit unless your ok with buying a whole new battery and clearomizers for it. Otherwise you'd just need an adapter to use the halo batteries with most other setups. Halo's batteries aren't too expensive though and I've found them to be a pretty good quality.

 

[Katdarling]

Hi oonej, and welcome to this wonderful forum!

Just wanted to toss out a couple of other thoughts for you.

The order you placed is pretty good! The only thing I would add would be some AW IMR batteries (considered by most as THE top notch battery). There are some reputable sites that sell them. I like RTD Vapor. https://www.rtdvapor.com/online-store/batteries/aw-imr-18650-3-7v-2000mah-detail

I'm sure with your studies you've found out that the Kanger Protank is glass. The previous comments about "melting" refer to acidic eliquids that can actually crack a poly tank. (Liquids like cinnamon for example.) The maintenance of your Protank and your Evod will be similar, and easy.

On the subject of eliquids, finding "THE" one(s) is all of our eternal struggle. Add to the mix that there are SO many flavors/vendors from which to choose, your taste buds will go thru changes as you continue to vape. What you love on week one may or may not be what you love on week six, or week sixty. And vice versa.

You said:
Clearos are probably more my taste from what i've read. I do not want bad taste from the sponge stuff in cartos (at least this is what i read).

I happen to adore vaping with a cartomizer. I don't find any odd taste at all. It is actually my preferred vape.

I've done this. We tried some of the e-hookahs that are blueberry flavored by Starbuzz

I'd love to know what you perceive to be the difference between the Starbuzz and vaping an ecig after you get started on vaping.


Tried finding some for sale, they are a little steep in price. But they look solid. Any other good recommendations possibly cheaper? Or a pass-through. My girlfriend works on the computer all day, so having it plugged in all day wouldn't be a problem.


I do have a suggestion that seems to be what your girlfriend would like. I would recommend an iTaste V3. It's Ego sized (square in shape rather than cylindrical), has variable voltage and power, and comes with its own charger. It can be used as a passthru so for someone who sits at a 'puter all day, it's a no brainer. I have two of them, so my comments are from my experience. I like them... a lot!

They run in the area of $40 and a bit less if you order from China. http://shop.nhaler.com/Innokin-iTaste-VV-Version-3-itaste.htm

Hope this helps and doesn't add to your overwhelm. It truly is daunting in the beginning, but you'll find the help right here on ECF that you need.

Happy Vapes to you and to your girlfriend~

 

[dj-method-x]

I am a hookah smoker as well. The starbuzz disposal e-hookahs are actually what introduced me to vaping. Proud to say that I haven't felt the need to visit my favorite hookah bar since I bought my own vape.

I recommend visiting mtbakervapor and buying a few flavors that mimic your favor hookah flavors. I used to LOVE mango pineapple shisha from my hookah bar, and mtbakervapor's mango juice has held me down. Since the nicotine fix is not a big deal for most hookah smokers, I get most of my juice with 0 nicotine so I can chain vape all day all night.

Good luck.

 

[Jazzi Mike]

Dude you need to check out eHookahUSA ejuice at GoodEJuice! I've been dying to suggest this to someone. It actually tastes remarkably like hookah!