Hi all, long time lurker here at ecf. I just received my brass broadside mod clone and am having an issue with it. I took my time adjusting the 510 pin to hit my atty just right, put battery in and adjusted out the battery rattle with bottom screw in adjustment. When I screw on the bottom ring that holds in the the delrin button however it automatically fires unless I back the threads back 2-3 turns.. Loosened the battery adjustment out thinking that maybe it was too tight. Same thing. Switched attys,readjusted everything, same thing. this is my first broadside, am I missing something stupid? Or should I email about getting a replacement sent?
Need help with broadside mod
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I am not familiar with this particular mech, but there is no throw adjustment? I had a few mechs that had an adjustment within the button, like the actual part that touched the negative terminal
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Broadside mods are positive down. It's button consists of 3 pieces that go around a cone shape screw (same screw used to adjust battery rattle) and when you push the button they spread around cone and contact the mod to complete circuit. My problem is that upon screwing on the bottom ring that holds it together it immediately makes contact, and if I screw it back to where it doesn't it still stays on once I depress button and let go. I see no obvious machining flaws on contacts that would cause this. Thinking maybe the mod tube was cut a bit short? I have no room for adjustments once the battery is in and 510 pin adjusted to any of my attys
I can screw it on about a thread further on attys that contacts sit almost flush but it still wants to stick on after button is pressed. There is almost no throw to it either, if I depress it even .5mm it starts firing and doesnt stop unless I unscrew said ring almost entirely.
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Being a clone may be a problem in having the seller make good. Sounds like a switch problem. If you have tried to return the mod back to original setting and it still acts up, I would contact the seller for redress.
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I figured it out, the 510 pin is a floating type that has a nut that screws on and makes the battery contact. I removed the nut and now it works fine, I still think the tube was machined slightly short but cant verify until I go to work tomorrow and measure it with a caliper.
Glad you got it worked out. I don't have that particular mod, but quite a few members here have it.
We all hang out in the mech mod subforum, you should stop by for a visit!
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Maybe a battery that's slightly shorter. I know some of my 18650's vary some, so just something to think about if there are no other adjustments
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I tried he4, 25r and a vtc4 and they all did the same thing which is why I thought the tube was short originally. But they all work now without the silver nut on the 510, its probably for the better though since now the battery just relies on passing through a solid pin instead of through a nut on the pin and just assuming the threading makes good contact with the pin
It may with certain atomizers if they have a shorter threaded section to push the pin up to it or if using shorter batteries but I don't see why it would. It spread the contact area on the battery out more, but then your passing the current through the threads of a nut and have to rely on all of the threads being seated properly or it defeats the purpose.. I don't particularly trust the quality of threading to reliably be seated perfectly at all times especially not in a clone, bad enough that the caps have to be threaded =/
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And it for sure made my mod auto fire so I'll assume it was either of poor design or poor quality.
There are two versions of the Broadsides clone, sounds like you got the worse of the two, now its not a bad mod, fit and finish was good on the one I had. However it had the same issue your experiencing. the fix is not difficult, but it may take a little messing around. The problem with it is the Delrin on the button (delrin ring which holds battery/clutch contact) side is a bit to thin, when screwed in tight the tube appears short. Not by much, but enough that it won't work properly.
I permanently fixed mine by placing an o-ring into the small shelf on the battery side of the Delrin. which ends up spacing the Delrin out maybe 1MM, or thereabouts. The guesstimate could vary from mod to mod, but should give you an idea of where to start and what needs to be done.
Sorry I cannot give you a specific size on the o-ring but I just look through my spares and guess what looks right. If I had to guess I would say 1.5x23mm maybe a faucet washer could be worked if you cannot source a properly sized o-ring, could be easily cut to size I suppose. From memory Faucet washers(rubber variety) might be a little thick but easy enough to work the rubber.
I'll also add that once this is done I never had any further issues and the mod worked quite nicely. Worth taking the time to fix.
I permanently fixed mine by placing an o-ring into the small shelf on the battery side of the Delrin. which ends up spacing the Delrin out maybe 1MM, or thereabouts. The guesstimate could vary from mod to mod, but should give you an idea of where to start and what needs to be done.
Sorry I cannot give you a specific size on the o-ring but I just look through my spares and guess what looks right. If I had to guess I would say 1.5x23mm maybe a faucet washer could be worked if you cannot source a properly sized o-ring, could be easily cut to size I suppose. From memory Faucet washers(rubber variety) might be a little thick but easy enough to work the rubber.
I'll also add that once this is done I never had any further issues and the mod worked quite nicely. Worth taking the time to fix.
I kind of realize after reading through what I posted may be a little confusing.
The basic problem is the Delrin ring which holds the battery adjustment/clutch pin is a bit thin, this allows the ring to be set to deeply into the mod. So the rattle adjustment pin ends up turned out to far which throws off the pin which expands the clutch. When that pin is out to far it prematurely expands the clutch mechanism. To far in and it simply fails to fire. The idea behind using Rubber is it allows the Delrin ring enough resistance to stay in place, and yet allows some movement through compression to go a little past tight.
A picture would be helpful unfortunately i no longer have that particular mod.
The basic problem is the Delrin ring which holds the battery adjustment/clutch pin is a bit thin, this allows the ring to be set to deeply into the mod. So the rattle adjustment pin ends up turned out to far which throws off the pin which expands the clutch. When that pin is out to far it prematurely expands the clutch mechanism. To far in and it simply fails to fire. The idea behind using Rubber is it allows the Delrin ring enough resistance to stay in place, and yet allows some movement through compression to go a little past tight.
A picture would be helpful unfortunately i no longer have that particular mod.
I had to do the exact same thing on mine and like you, have had flawless function ever since. The cut out below the threaded delrin almost looks designed to have an o-ring in it.
However, having said that it sounds like the OP could be having the opposite issue. The delrin which has the bottom contact pin in it (the one with the vent holes) is actually a threaded piece. It sounds as if yours is not screwed in enough and is sitting too proud, resulting in you not being able to screw on the cap. Do perservere, the mod is a goodun.
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