Mechanized Vaper Looking to Add a VV/VW to The Armory

[Hitcat44]

Should have never got a subbox Mini Kit to hit when mowing & bush-hogging. Now I got the "jones" for a full-blown full-feature VV/VW mod. So, going to sell my Mushroom Wood Concepts Balayong El Cabron Mech to help fund a new Weapon to compliment the Hollowpoint Mech (my Fave and a Keeper).

Seeking Advice and Direction from actual Owners/Users of the following to Zero-In on One Target & Acquire.

Possibles (listed in order of Cost High to Low):
SX Mini M
Snow Wolf 200
IPV4
sigelei 75 (realize not on Shelves yet so Educated Conjecture is sought. ETA Any Time Now)

Criteria:
Chip-the YiHi Models seem to be superior by Research & Reviews I have done & seen.
TC-Don't really care if has it or not as I don't see myself using that given my Coil Prefs. Neither Plus nor Minus.
Batteries-Prefer dbl 18650 over single for onboard Power longevity but like Minimalism of sngl Config better.
Price Point-< $200. Cost is a concern but not the Primary Consideration. But, demand to get $100 more Mod with the $100 more Cost (if ya get my drift).
Aesthetics & Ergonomics-VERY Important to me. Just as much as Mechanics & Function.
Mate To-RDAs & RTAs General Build Range .75-.3 Ohm.
Also, looking for a "Keeper" so must satisfy now and continue to do so AND the Longevity to last for a long time. Must be Durable but doesn't have to be "Combat-Ready" so to speak. The Holowpoint Mech more than has that covered.

Given All That,,, What Say You oh Masters of the Variables?
Thanks much in advance for your Consideration, Time, and Advice.

 

[roxynoodle]

The sx mini just plain stands out . That chip puts the others to shame.

There is the Boxer using the same chip, but with dual batteries. An assembled one is $250 and I think the kit is $170. But, its ugly IMO. Your opinion may differ

If you go with the ipv4, remove the charging board. Some have had it short out on the 510. You don't want to use it for charging anyway because there have been explosions.

Snow Wolf looks pretty good, but one drop could shatter the glass.

I expect the Sigelei will be a reliable mod like their other box mods, but only time will tell.

You can get a 100W Sig or 150W Sig for awesome prices right now. No tc and not that ergonomic, but for under $65, they're a bargain.

 

[Hitcat44]

Thanks Roxy.
I am leaning toward the SX Mini or the Snow Wolf and agree on their Pros & Cons. Don't mind shelling out a couple Benjis (for the SX) but want to be damn sure it's worth it and is actually a C-note better Mod than the Snow Wolf or the others.

Re: The IPV4,,,
You mean "physically" remove the USB Charger Board from the Unit????? I can understand not using the USB Charging Port (don't plan to anyways) but if an actual Necessity to physically remove the entire Aseembly from the Mod,,, That Dog won't Hunt as they say in the Kaintuck. That will scratch it from the List.

 

[roxynoodle]

Yes, physically remove the whole board and cap the wires I agree, I'm not buying an ipv4.

I am thinking about the Snow Wolf.

 

[Hitcat44]

Roger that. Thnx Much!
Scratch the IPV4.
And,,, Then there were 3.

P.s. Seem to remember somewhere reading one of them had a "Bypass Mode" which allowed the Mod to act as an UnReg "Mech". Am I trippin?

 

[roxynoodle]

No, the sx mini has bypass, so you're not tripping, lol!

I'm not sure if other yihi chips have it.

 

[Hitcat44]

Whew,,,, Thanks again

Was hoping it was the Snow Wolf as I was leaning that way.
Now, Scales back to neck & neck.

 

[roxynoodle]

I swear I think I've seen bypass on at least another mod I have with a Yihi chip. I can't remember which one(s) though offhand. I would have to go through all their menus. I have a lot of mods with Yihi chips.

 

[Hitcat44]

Don't worry about it. It's All Good.
Think I have made up my mind.
Will mull it around while doing other stuff this weekend and then pull the trigger Monday.
I really appreciate your Input. Helped alot to weigh out and dial-in.
Have an awesome Weekend.

 

[Hitcat44]

Questions if you have the time,,, Have seen your contributions to alot of Threads on the SX and you seem to know these well and have an awesome knowledge and experience on them. Like to pick your brain some more if no objections.
Not ready to jump into TC just now but want a Device that will accommodate when that comes.
Even if didn't have all the TC stuff (or I don't ever get it enough to utilize), is this worth the cost and still a Superior VV/VW Mod?
I love the Upgradability on the SX and from YiHi. They appear to be pretty awesome on Updates and staying on top of what is needed and wanted from the Client Base. Impressive and Admirable. From that, the SX stands alone as a Device that can either prevent or greatly prolong the need or desire to upgrade Devices. The SX should be one that can put an end to the "Bigger & Better" Compulsions at least as pertains to the Variables portion of my Equipment.
Only concern I have is the "Joules vs. Temp" settings and Theory. I get pretty much anything and can grasp most Concepts easily in my Mind and Implement that into practical daily Applications. However, Electrical Principle and Theory just blows my mind and does not click with me.
Torques me off but it is what it is and c'est la Vie. Actually Vaping has helped a ton on that and I get the V, W, O, A, and how they relate now. Amazing to me how that is now not an issue.
I have read on the Joules thing here and understand that it is "Heat" as opposed to Temp. BUT, just paranoid that I won't ever grasp it enough to be able to utilize that to be able to take full advantage of what the SX will do for me. How will I know how to set it properly should I ever decide to use it and build Ni or Ti?
I saw a Spread Sheet listing Parameters for the 3 Modes and it looked like no real Issues even if set it wrong other than a crappy Vape. Wouldn't destroy the Device or explode a Batt or myself. If that's the case, guess I shouldn't over think it all. Is that the case?
So, cutting to the chase,
Is the SX a great Device and worth 2 C-notes without the TC?
Is the Joules thing hard to get and comprehend enough to be able to use successfully and correctly for an Electrical Id-Jit such as me?
Is it dangerous if I get the TC Settings wrong while learning in trial & error fashion?
Now the Biggie and I won't blame you regardless of what I do or how it all turns out,,,,
Given all the above, IF You were Me, knowing all you know with the experience you have,
Would you buy the SX?
Quite the loaded Question and no offense should you choose not to answer (hope ya do though).
I trust your Opinion and Objectivity.
Thanks.

I guess it's easy to tell I really want to pull the trigger on the SX just concerned I may be wasting a good chunk of change if I don't get the TC and/or Joules thing.
I love the Looks. The Form. The Tech and it's Upgradability. It's Quality. It's Longevity (so far). It's Manufacturer Support and Commitment to this Unit. Really really Dig all that alot.
All boils down to the TC/Joules concerns and self-doubt I suppose.
Ah the Gambles we make and Chances we take.
But as I said in another Section and Thread,,, I also bet on the Bills to win the Super Bowl 4 years in a row and lost obviously and miserably. Little Gun-Shy.

 

[roxynoodle]

I would have at least 10 sx's if I could afford them . I have 2 S classes and one M class. The S classes don't have tc, and I'm fine with that. For me, tc isn't the end all be all that it is for some. First of all, I'm allergic to nickel and must use titanium.

I am now allowed by Yihi to say I've been beta testing new firmware with ti mapping. Its working fantastically, and I believe that upgrade will be available soon for everyone. It also allows 75W or 75J with one battery. And has 5 power modes, although so did the previous firmware update. For me, those power modes alone make it the superior mod. Talk about dialing in your vape!

Don't fret about the learning curve. I'm still learning myself with my tc builds, and I have a minor in physics, lol! Nothing bad will happen while you're playing with it. This mod has more safety features than any other. For example, if you use a subpar battery, it won't fire if the battery can't handle it, yet I saw an ipv2 let an unsuitable battery vent. The worst that can happen is your vape may feel very cool or you'll be bouncing off the temp limiter. Adjust and vape again

I do use 30A batteries in my sx minis. 60-75W/J is a lot for a single battery. But, again, if your batt isn't up to it, it won't fire.

I think the mod is worth the price and then some. But, I also have a slew of other mods also, and don't hate them. Half my mods are mechs so they are only as good as my build.

 

[Hitcat44]

Thanks so much. That will pretty much seal the Deal for me. An SX M class it shall be. Same here on all the Mods (Love my Mechs). Have a Kbox for working outside, a Sub Box for going to town to eat, movies, etc., and narrowed my Mech down to a Hollowpoint and a Panzer Hellfire. Looking to get one High End End All Variable and be done with that. The SX M will foot that bill nicely and carry me far into the future.
Greatly appreciate your time and direction. Really do.
I have a tendency to be overly Cynical and Skeptical. Thanks for belaying and putting all that aside.
Interesting,. Physics huh? First two years of College were on a full ride Engineering Physics Scholarship. Then switched to Poly Sci with a Psychology Minor. I got it all no issues but just wasn't "fun".
The Electrical Theories just freaking don't click for me easily or readily so I get Twisted.
Anyways, thanks again for telling me and not simply Selling me.
All the best to ya.

P.s. Understand the Battery requirements. Have 2 LG HE2's at the ready.

 

[Hitcat44]

Now comes finding the right RTA to stick on it. Will use my RDAs on it at times as well but already have those figured out and acquired.
Really hot on the Erl Konigen but think I will get a WoToFo Clone of it first to be sure before I shell out $130 for the real deal. WoToFo makes good 1:1 Clones so should tell me what I need to know about it. Plus love the Design and the look. All I have read about the Konigin is very positive on its Function. Plus should lend itself nicely to Ni & Ti builds as it is a single Coil Deck.
Will use one of my ST Minis and their Ni Coils to first delve into the TC world and begin the Education. Also can do a Ti build on the ST RBA Base.
One thing for sure, it's gonna be interesting and pretty sure the Prospectus on success is better than the Bills those four years....

 

[roxynoodle]

Lol, I'm always good for an honest answer . But, for that same reason I would be a horrible salesperson.

I have some beater mods, too, for working outside and taking out with me (isticks, mvp 20W). Beater mods have their place, that's for sure.

And the mechs will still be working once regulated mods croak.

 

[roxynoodle]

I've been using my Erlks for tc. They are great flavor attys, and do well with tc. I have a clone and an authentic. My clone came from FT, but they don't seem to have it anymore or I would link you to it.

 

[Hitcat44]

Amen to the Mechs. Been a Mech Warrior for quite awhile.
Never even considered a Variable much less a $200 one till came here.
This Place is contagious and a terrible influence on an Obsessive Compulsive

 

[Hitcat44]

Well,,, You are definitely a bountiful Well of Intel indeed.
The Konigin it shall be.
Have to sell my El Cabron Mushroom Wood Concepts Balayong prior to that acquisition. My Wife says my Vape Arsenal is getting larger than my Weapon's one.... the financial Investment in both is coming to the point where it is being frowned upon by the Establishment so to speak.
May even need to let my full-Copper Fogger v4.1 go as well just to appease my own Conscious.

 

[Hitcat44]

Last questions,, what's a good Source for Ti wire to build coils with? And, are the Gauges and their Resistance Measures accordingly the same as Kanthal? Logic tells me they will be a tad different due to the diff in Molecular Densities and what not.
Might be easier to ask,,, I shoot normally for around .45 Ohms on my builds. What Gauge Ti would you suggest to achieve that or would you suggest a diff Ohm Target for TC all together?

 

[roxynoodle]

Titanium has lower resistance than kanthal, and is a different ballgame. Depending on gauge, expect resistances between 0.1-0.5 ohm. Much lower than that with ni200.

Titanium Round Wire, 50-ft. Coil, 24-Ga., Soft

 

[Hitcat44]

Thanks much for the Link. Surprised as from what I have seen, Ti is supposed to be "Expensive". $10 for 50' isn't bad at all.
Can the Ti be fired, compressed and detailed like Kanthal or is it similar to the Ni which can't be?
Or, is it best not to build like that with Ti for TC?