Just Started please help

[evaporator]

Ok so i had heard about this a few months back and then about 2 weeks ago i was at my local mall, and smoking everywhere had a stand set up. SO i bought a gold starter kit and i got a red icig for my wife. (same parts as mine just a (different colored battery). SO it seemed great at first but now i have a a few questions/complaints. It seems that it stopped working so well. Are these just generic parts with a private label on them? Can i roder my own reeplacement parts from somwhere else? It seems the atomizer works less and less every day. SOm of my cartridges dont work at all it seems. Seem like the battery life has decreased dramatically. SOmetimes when im done taking a hit the thing stays on and gets extremely hot, which seems to kill the cartridge and battery charge. ANyway this thing is startin to really piss me off. What is a good replacement for it. I want something cheaper and more reliable. ALso i need something that produces a lot of vapor to satisfy my smoking need. My wife is ok with less but i need a strong hit. I called smoking everywhere and they told me to take it back to the shop i got it form and they should replace everything. However i doubt the mall stand people are going to help. SO i'm going to have to send it in and wait for them to send me replacements. Honestly, I dont trust them to ever send my replacements so i dont know what to do. It seems that they are a rip off and i should go somewhwere else anyway. Sorry for rambling on so much and thanks for the help.

David in Baltimore

 

[JustJulie]

First, congrats!

Second, go back to the Smoking Everywhere (SE) kiosk and get replacement parts. (I'm crossing my fingers that you don't have to mail stuff in.) Bottom line is that you paid a premium to get a warranty, and you should take advantage of that.

Third, start reading this forum because, as you suspected, you're probably going to want to get another model/brand of e-cig, whether to be your primary vape or as a backup to your SE.

The most frequently suggested model for a new e-smoker is the DSE901, primarily because it's easy to use, not many bugs, cheap, and fairly easy to find parts for. Perhaps most importantly, it gives you a good baseline to determine what you like and what you don't like, which is extraordinarily helpful if you decide you want to try something else.

Since you're a vapor kind of guy and you seem to already have the hang of e-smoking, you might like a 510. There are several different manufacturers/brands of 510s out there, so it might get confusing. Probably the best known is the Janty Dura-C. It's more expensive than the competition, but Janty provides an excellent warranty.

The 510 is small, sleek, and a vapor producer. While the manual batteries take a bit of getting used to (it's a button on the side of the battery that you depress to turn it on), folks get used to it real quick. Most of us who like manual batteries enjoy the control it gives us.

Now, if you're willing to take a walk on the wild side, you might be interested in a "mod," a generic term which basically refers to most everything that doesn't look like a "traditional" e-cig. The mods tend to have more powerful batteries which tend to produce better vapor and last longer in between chargings.

Those of us who use mods, swear by them. I have a Screwdriver, and I love it. Seriously. But if you don't feel comfortable vaping something that doesn't resemble a cigarette or a pen, then a mod may not be right for you.

The main mods are the GG, the Screwdriver, the Prodigy (due out soon), and the JantyStick. You can find loads of information on them, as well as many, many other models, just by spending some time browsing the forum.

 

[Caesarea]

Just a few clickables which may also help.
Happy Vaping!

C

Welcome to the forum.


http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/2562-helpful-links-videos-new-user.html


http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ion-newbies-pics-most-common-models-here.html



http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...2-new-updated-comprehensive-intro-vaping.html

 

[evaporator]

thanks for the info!!!

I saw here

sorry cant post link but its in the "suppliers people should be warned about" thread

SmokingEverywhere - seem to be getting everywhere in the US. Very expensive, no return policy and the product isn't good, except the Gold/3.0 version which is a standard RN4081. Got suckered in by Smoking Everywhere

Does that mean i can order RN4081 parts for it? This thing seems like junk, And the cartridges barely hold any liquid. I was just watching a video of the 901 and it seems it has like 3 times as much wadding in the cart to hold liquid. Well I'm off to the mall after work to try and get new batteries and atomizers. and some free cartridges while im at it.

a few more questions as i think im definitely going to order something today. The 901 is the one with the usb pass through right? Do i have to order the pass through separately and is it readily available? I'm definitely looking for something with a manual battery or a pass through capability to deliver those strong throat hits to get me off the analogues. thanks again for the help guys.

 

[Caesarea]

Hopefully the guys near Baltimore will have some tips for you - also look in the Suppliers forum to browse for best prices.

Best

C.

 

[Richie G]

...a few more questions as i think im definitely going to order something today. The 901 is the one with the usb pass through right? Do i have to order the pass through separately and is it readily available? I'm definitely looking for something with a manual battery or a pass through capability to deliver those strong throat hits to get me off the analogues. thanks again for the help guys....

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I love your enthusiasm. It reminds of, ummm, me and a thousand others. LOL

Many of us end up buying multiple products. All of them have their advantages and disadvantages in one form or another. It's my hope that you can take full advantage of this wealth of information here, daunting as it may be at first, and make an educated purchase. Like you, I started with an RN4081. It's akin to your first car, a sub-compact, if you will. I didn't have an e-cig in my hand until a few weeks ago and I've already bought 3 models since.

My advice, FWIW, is to slow down a little. Check out the vids, especially Spikey's intro to vaping. Try to figure out your own criteria and base your decision on that. Every question you can possibly come up with has been asked somewhere in this forum. Take some time and check out what others have asked and/or ask them again.

Regardless of model(s) you choose, you're on your way to ridding the cigarette habit for good. Best of luck.

 

[Figurehead]

I suggest looking into getting the VX2 from litecigusa.com because it is the perfect starter kit IMO. The price is great, the device vapes like a volcano, and the customer service is beyond fantastic.

 

[dumwaldo]

Yes, your SE GOLD is the exact same thing as a RN4081 so you can buy parts online that will work just fine with your e-cig.

Something you should try is to take your atomizer off the e-cig and remove the cart from it. Now place the threaded end of the atomizer in your lips and blow through it with a tissue in front of the open side of the atomizer. This will usually blow out any obstructions or build ups of liquid and can help to make the atomizer perform better.

Something else you can do that will improve the thrat hit you get is to get some e-liquid and drip it directly onto the atomizer then use a 'blank' cart to cover the atomizer. To make a cart into a blank, just stick a paperclip into the hole on the mouth side and push out the little cup inside.

This is an example of the vapor I get from my SE GOLD...
YouTube - 04262009013

I just want you to be aware that SE gets beat up pretty good on these forums. It is 100% true that they overcharge up the ying yang. It is 100% true that their sales people are complete idiots and liars. It is 100% true that the company itself makes unfounded claims regarding health and longevity of the carts.

What is NOT true is that the 4081 they sell is a POS. It is actually a fine e-cig for the class of devices it is in. Compared to other super mini's it is not at all bad. I even find it to be just as good as the 901.

I am not trying to tell you that you have a top of the line e-cig. What I am trying to tell you is that before you just dismiss the SE GOLD, make sure you are getting what you can out of it. I have several e-cigs now and the SE GOLD is the one I use at work. I am a carpenter and it stands up to the abuse of a jobsite very well IMHO.

DW

 

[Paradiso]

Richie, take a deep breath, put down the credit card!
Its easy to go nuts buying all kinds of stuff trying to find the "right" e-cig.
Read around the forums a bit, especially look into people's reviews of the M401 and the 510 (lots of different names, titan, yeti, etc). These are two of the best and newest technolgy e-cigs and I think that you would be well served by either.
I haven't used a 510 but I keep hearing consistently that it delivers a strong hit, that coupled with the availability of a manual battery (trust me, you want this) makes it a strong contender for best e-cig.

You can get USB pasthroughs for virtually any type, its an extra accessory, doesn't come in the kit.

Best of luck

John

 

[Tallgirl1974]

I know SE has a bad rep- but I have to speak up for some vendors- they are all owned by dif people here in ATL area(so I assume its that way everywhere?) and the one in Stonecrest mall here honors warranties and the sellers are very nice. I think it will depends on the seller him/herself. So go ask them!
Its a rip off to people who have been around, and I have bashed them pretty hard myself, but considering I have now spent more than what they sell them for on replacement parts for my DSE901- had I bought the SE mini I would have a year warranty in place around the corner instead of a pile of batteries and attys to send back to china. Theirs are crap, mine are crap, my friends are crap- and we all have dif models from dif sellers.

 

[Richie G]

Waldo sez:

I am not trying to tell you that you have a top of the line e-cig. What I am trying to tell you is that before you just dismiss the SE GOLD, make sure you are getting what you can out of it. I have several e-cigs now and the SE GOLD is the one I use at work. I am a carpenter and it stands up to the abuse of a jobsite very well IMHO.

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I don't know how much this will benefit anyone else but your situation mirrors mine, so I have to ask a couple of questions. I'm presuming you use only the 4081 for a typical day's work? How many batteries do you bring along? Do you bring the charger to work and where oh where would you plug that thing into? (those <cough> low-life electricians don't even hang enough power drops from the ceiling to run the power tools. When one is lucky enough to find a drop there is always a couple of 3-ways plugged into it, a couple of cell chargers, a radio and an occasional screw gun as a prop) LOL

What happens if you get stuck working OT?

I've been home for a couple of weeks so the transition to vaping has been easy. But, I'm concerned how this may translate on the job site when I go back in a week or so. Have you had any issues with building personnel, general contractors and such with the e-cig?

I plan to head out the door with 2 fully charged 801s, a 2ml juice bottle and a RN4081 as a back-up. I know that seem excessive, I certainly don't vape *that* much, but Waldo -- I am not going back to analogs. What has your experience been like?

Thanks -- Richie

 

[bugeater]

I love my SE Gold. True... I got ripped off but I still use it all the time. I also lend it out a lot to friends who are curious about e-cigs.

My current favorite is the manual switched 510.

 

[dumwaldo]

Richie,

One of my e-cigs is the Janty Dura-C and when I got it I also got the PCC case to go with it. The PCC is a Personal Charging Case that has, I think, a 1300mAh battery inside and lets me charge batteries on the go. To my surprise it works just as well with the 4081 batteries.

Charging is never a problem for me because this. The PCC is also good because it uses a mini USB port to charge the case itself so in a pinch it would not be all that difficult to get a hold of a mini USB charge. Ask around the job and someone will have a motorolla cell phone charger .

The PCC is certainly not perfect and not the best workmanship in the world but it does what I need it to do. I look forward to future revisions of the PCC.

With regards to the general contracting supers and safety officers, lets just say I am not always their favorite guy on the job. I am questioned on EVERY jobsite i go to. Usually the conversation will go something like this....

GC Rep: Hey, you can't smoke here

me: OK, if I see anybody smoking I will let them know.

GC Rep: NO YOU!!! YOU CANT SMOKE!!!

me: OH, I am sorry, you are mistaken. I am not smoking, this is a nicotine inhaler that keeps me from smoking cigarettes.

GC Rep: oh, is that one of those electric crap things I heard about on tv?

me: probably, but it is what I use to keep me following your rules. It has no fire threat and what you think is smoke is actually a vapor that just disapates into the air in seconds and does not violate the smoking bans. It is like when you exhale on a cold day.

GC Rep: Alright fine.

You need to take the advantage by being prepared for the conversation. Since I have had this conversation a bunch of times already I am prepared. For the super or safety officer it is generally the first time they are having the conversation.

A key point is to NEVER be baited into using the word 'cigarette' as in 'electric cigarette' or electronic cigarette to refer to what it is. If the GC is actually smart enough to use that phrase with my then I answer possibly instead of probably. But I will NOT let the word cigarette come out of my mouth in refrence to what it is. I just insist it is a nicotine inhaler.

Talking to guys on the job I have no problem with electric cigarette or electronic cigarette but I refuse to use those phrases with the GC.

Do you ride the LIRR? the back seats by the doors that lead from one car to another are the least confrontational seats for a vaper.

People ARE going to ask you about it if you use it in public but then again there are also LOTS of people that will not say a word no matter where you are or how much it looks like real smoking.

DW

 

[evaporator]

Like i said i have issues getting a good enough hit out of the SE gold. Maybe with a fresh bat and a brand new cart its good for a little bit, but even then its seems some carts are good and some aren't. Any way i just ordered a manual switch 510 and a pass through it for and 100ml of juice. So hopefully i'll be good to go soon and wont need anymore analogues.

 

[dumwaldo]

the 510 will give you a good solid throat hit.

When you get the liquid, try what I suggested before about putting 2 drops of liquid directly on the atomizer and using a blanked out cartridge.

DW

 

[Richie G]

Good stuff, Waldo. Thank you.

We're on the same page. I have a Jantystick coming and plan on defining it as simply "an inhaler". If questioned further -- "an inhaler for my affliction".

Turner tots and the like aren't the brightest lamps in the string anyway.

Us tradesmen have unique issues with smoking. (well, not you or I because we don't smoke! I love saying that!) But in regard to access to the great outdoors from, say, the 53rd floor of XYZ building sans the ability to use a passenger elevator. Just another reason to quit aside from the obvious ones and quite possibly keeping one's job. Being "out of the work area" is cause for dismissal in my trade.

 

[wv2win]

If you are planning to buy another PV, then as one of the earlier posters mentioned, do yourself a favor and consider a larger battery unit. The Screwdriver, GG, LV/Zi Moshi, Prodigy and the Janty Stick (to a lesser extent) provide 7-8 hours of battery life and have consistently top notch throat hit. The batteries cost $2 instead of $20 and you can get them at many battery online stores. You will save money over time just due to the low cost of the batteries. And they all have manual switches which allow you to heat up the atomizer as long as you want, producing better throat hit/warmer vapor and you don't have to be concerned about liquid getting into the battery compartment and gumming up the auto switch.

The Big Five in Manual Switch PV’s:

Screwdriver: ecigscrewdriver.com
Prodigy: PureSmoker.com - Your #1 Source For PV's, Parts, & Accessories!
GG: THE GG
JantyStick: Janty USA
Zi Moshi Home

Best liked PV poll:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-discussion/14342-whats-your-favorite-pv.html

 

[evaporator]

so i talked the lady into exchanging my both batteries and my atomizer on the spot but only cause it was within 30 days of purchase. otherwise she would have told me to screw off and i would have to send to the manufacturer and wait for a replacement. they are now offering a five year waaranty for 25 bucks though. i may have to look into the details of that next time im there. i mean if i can get basciaklly a whole new kit every month for 5 years for 25 bucks ill do it. if i have to send it in and wait its not really worth it. am i supposed to smoke cigs while i wait for it to get shipped? anyway this thing isnt bad with a fresh new bat and atomizer. good solid hits. my only complaint now is that a cartridge certainly isnt what they advertise. but we all know that anyway. it seems the wool is flimsy and could be packed tighter or be larger to hold more liquid. from pictures ive seen it seems some other models have much larger storage in their carts. i hope this one doesnt do the stay on and get red hot thing myy last one did. as i think thats what killed it so quick. so now i have a gold and a 510 on the way.. a screwdriver is probably my nexyt stop but ill see how the 510 treats me for now. thanks again for all the help.

 

[Moonlighter]

Evaporator- I too bought the gold at the mall...arrrrrr
I've got to return another 2 batties but they will exchange parts for a full year.
I bought some e juice and am saving my carts and plastic tip inserts so that when I use up a cart, I put one or two drops in the cart and slip the little plastic cover back in and have read most people get about 5 reuses out of one cart. They will start getting weird when they wear out.

 

[Moonlighter]

Evaporator- I too bought the gold at the mall...arrrrrr
I've got to return another 2 batties but they will exchange parts for a full year.
I bought some e juice and am saving my carts and plastic tip inserts so that when I use up a cart, I put one or two drops in the cart and slip the little plastic cover back in and have read most people get about 5 reuses out of one cart. They will start getting weird when they wear out.

Amazon.com had the gold se for around 68 bucks week or so ago. Brand New.
Shop around on line.