Johnson Creek, The Entire Collection

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Johnson Creek is somewhat infamous (or maybe notorious, depending on who you ask) compared to its e-liquid peers. This was the first company I can remember hearing about in the vaping world. Long before I even knew what an ‘atty’, ‘carto’, or ‘juice’ even was, I learned that Johnson Creek was a terrible company. The stuff clogged something or other and caused general mayhem and expense to poor recovering smokers everywhere. The product was to be avoided At All Costs.

Well, that was nearly 11 months ago. I’ve picked up few tips here and there in the meantime. ;)

I’d really let Johnson Creek slip off my radar. After all, there are a million e-liquid vendors out there to try and why bother with a vendor so vilified as Johnson Creek? As it turned out, I’d tried to purchase from a well thought of vendor on these very forums for what seemed like the hundredth time and that vendor had been unable to complete my transaction, yet again. As I pondered what to do, a banner ad came up on ECF for Johnson Creek. I figured what the heck, and clicked on it.

If you’ve read any of my reviews, you’ll know that the one attribute I absolutely cannot stand in e-liquid is an artificially sweet sucralose flavor. That flavor, even in small amounts is like kryptonite to me. Unfortunately, that particular sweetener is very common in the e-liquid world. E-liquids that others rave about, I can’t stomach. Folks can’t figure out why I don’t give the thumbs up to many liquids, and often, the sucralose is why.

I am happy to report that only one Johnson Creek flavor has that artificially sweet flavor, but we’ll get to that in a second.

My order comprised of the Original Smoke Juice Sampler, which is a 100% PG liquid with an 18 mg/ml dosage. I also ordered the Red Oak line sampler, which is 100% VG with an 18 mg/ml dosage. This allowed me to try every flavor Johnson Creek produces, sans the specialty flavors they manufacture exclusively for hardware vendors like Blu. (I’m pulling Blu from memory, if I’m wrong, someone correct me, please.)

As soon as I opened the package, I knew Johnson Creek was serious about the presentation and perception of their product. The glass vials came in a nice tin which included a lot number and a little bumper sticker. The tins were labeled prominently and were easy to read. The ingredients were listed, as was a warning label and contact information. In addition, there was an instructional card included in my order.

Other vendors could stand to take a lesson from Johnson Creek when it comes to packaging, the product looked sharp, professional, and not at all like it was mixed in someone’s garage. Johnson Creek is pretty transparent about their facility, their staff, and their product. I think the only company as transparent about their staff and facilities might be Puresmoker. It’s apparent that Christian Berkey, CEO of Johnson Creek is serious about being on the forefront of the vaping industry. Color me impressed with their organization and marketing.


But all of that means nothing if the e-liquid sucks.
Let’s get on with it, shall we?
At 18 mg, the throat hit was pretty harsh on all flavors for me.
All liquid was below average for vapor production.
All flavors vaped on a stock Riva510


Red Oak Line 100% VG

Swiss Dark 18mg
I’ve heard of reviewers claiming that some chocolate flavors taste burnt. I had never experienced this before, but now I have. This is a harsh, burnt, bitter flavor.
Purchase again? No.

Wisconsin Frost 18 mg
This is a creamy mint, but not in a good way. It took me awhile to figure out what the flavor was. I could taste mint, but it was dulled by a chalky cream sensation. Finally I remembered what the flavor was: Phillips Milk of Magnesia.
Purchase again? No.


Island 18mg
This flavor surprised me a bit. Fruit flavors tend to be artificially sweet, but not so with this one. It tasted just like a pina colada, although maybe a little heavy on the pineapple garnish. It was pretty good at first but I did catch a bit of something manmade in the liquid after awhile. I couldn’t quite place what that off element was, but I can say it’s in every Johnson Creek flavor. This manmade flavor doesn’t offend me, but I don’t care for it either.
Purchase again? Yes, but only in small quantities.

Marcado 18mg
A clove and cinnamon flavored e-liquid that made me cough on my first drag. This flavor is strong, really strong. Again, there’s that tell tale manmade element in the mix that takes an otherwise nice vape and gives it an off putting finish. I can vape this for a bit, but then I have to put it away.
Purchase again? Sure.

Valencia 18 mg
This orange ain’t from Florida, or maybe even a real tree. I get more of the orange peel oil than the flesh of the fruit out of this one. It’s a very sharp citrus note with a cinnamon finish. Since it didn’t have any artificial sweetness, this liquid is the best orange I’ve ever tried. Still, it had that manmade element, which makes me hesitate on pulling the trigger on a larger bottle.
Purchase again? I may revisit this after trying some other orange flavors despite its flaws. Could be a good mixer too.

Tennessee Cured 18 mg
Amazingly mild despite the sharp chemical like scent. This is a sweet ‘tobacco’ blend that manages to not having any of that crappy nut flavor so prevalent in e liquids today. The flavor isn’t real tobacco, more like a suggestion of tobacco with a vanilla undertone. It’s not bad, but not my favorite tobacco either. It’s just an inoffensive vape.
Purchase again? Probably, but I have a lot of other tobacco flavors in line ahead of it.

Domestic 18mg
This is a medicinal scented e-liquid that reminds me of mint chocolate on the inhale. It’s alright as it doesn’t have the mystery nut ‘tobacco’ flavor, but it’s not a cigarette flavor as advertised. It’s a slightly sweet, slightly minty, and slightly manmade tasting flavor.
Purchase again? No.

Original Smoke Juice 100% PG, 18mg/ml


JC Original 18 mg
The liquid that started it all at Johnson Creek. This flavor should be familiar to anyone who has ever tried a nutty sweet ‘tobacco’. This flavor is common in the e-liquid market.
Purchase again? No.
Tennessee Cured 18mg
Much like it’s all VG counterpart. Mild, unassuming, slightly sweet, no nut.
Purchase again? No, I’d sooner go for the VG blend on this one.

Black Cherry 18mg
Smells like a cherry Twizzler, tastes like a cherry Twizzler. Not bad. No artificially sweet flavor here and no cough drop flavor either. Yes, it does have a touch of that manmade element, just like the Oak Creek liquids, but unlike the Valencia where that element pops out, here it stays to the back and doesn’t ruin the vape.
Purchase again? Yes

French Vanilla 18 mg
I’ve been on the prowl for the vanilla flavor used in that crappy little super mini called the Smokebot. Love that stuff. I was hoping Johnson Creek was who actually made it. Unfortunately for me, the vanilla search continues. But to be fair, this is a nice generic grocery store vanilla. Nothing offensive or majorly out of place. It’s ok, but there’s better vanilla out there.
Purchase again? No

Chocolate Truffle 18mg
There’s that burnt chocolate flavor again. And sucralose flavoring. Lots of artificial sweetness. Yuck. I think they use toffee flavor in this since this specific artificially sweet flavor seems to be the same as every toffee from every vendor I’ve ever tried.
Purchase again? No.

Arctic Menthol 18 mg
Maybe it’s just how they make their mint and menthol blends, but this has the same milk of magnesia taint that Wisconsin Frost has. My brain is telling me I should be enjoying this creamy cool blend, but my tongue is convinced I’m guzzling from the blue Phillips bottle.
Purchase again? No.

Espresso 18 mg
To me this tastes more like bitter coffee that’s sat on the burner just a tad too long. I get very little sweet and a whole lot of burnt. This is the first coffee based flavor that I’ve tried that I really didn’t care for because of a burnt flavor. I suppose if you like strong black convenience store coffee, this could be for you.
Purchase again? No.

Mint Chocolate 18mg
Suffers from the same burnt chocolate flavor as Swiss Dark. I didn’t notice any mint because I was too busy scrapping crispy carbon flavor out of my tastebuds.
Purchase again? No.

Summer Peach 18mg
Surprisingly good e liquid, especially since I eat maybe one peach a year. Nice mellow peach flavor with not a hint of artificial anything. Recommended if you like natural peaches (not the candy kind) and recommended even if you don’t like peaches. Very nice juice for after dinner or on a Sunday afternoon when relaxing.
Purchase again? Yes

Spiced Apple Cider 18mg
Again I was surprised by how close this liquid is to the drink it’s trying to emulate. Nice apple bite followed up by warm cinnamon and nutmeg notes. I can see myself vaping this on a snowy day or during the holidays.
Purchase again? Yes
 
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You really have to try the Solstice on the next try, it's a regular for me now, it is so so so so SO good!!

Have to agree with the expresso comments LOL

I also liked Valencia, but couldn't vape it often, and I just tried the Black Cherry today and like it A LOT!
Not as much as Solstice tho...

I'm trying the spiced apple cider next, and the tundra, which I hear is the best of their menthols...
 

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I started off with Blu and the only problem I had was batt life, so when I moved on to a 510
I went looking for the mnf of Blu's juice. I ordered Marcado and TC in the Vg line exclusively
for a couple months. The price was prohibitive, but still cheaper than analogs in the long run.

Then came the problems. Many of their fans assumed they were frequently changing the recipes
because otherwise it implied their QC was so bad they couldn't maintain a flavor from month to
month. I think the background flavor you noticed in the Oak line was whatever they were using
to thin the VG. My last bottle of TC had a very strong peppery taste that I associated with old
nic juice. The last bottle of Marcado ( my absolutely favorite when it was right ) was like water
and actually had sediment in it.

Like many of their fans, in the end, I just had to move on. :(
 

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Then came the problems. Many of their fans assumed they were frequently changing the recipes
because otherwise it implied their QC was so bad they couldn't maintain a flavor from month to
month. I think the background flavor you noticed in the Oak line was whatever they were using
to thin the VG. My last bottle of TC had a very strong peppery taste that I associated with old
nic juice. The last bottle of Marcado ( my absolutely favorite when it was right ) was like water
and actually had sediment in it.

Like many of their fans, in the end, I just had to move on. :(

Man, I hope that is not true anymore - I am really hooked on the Solstice and now the Black Cherry as well....
My aunt LOVES JC juices, her fav is a mix of chocolate truffle and expresso...
 

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I also ordered the Original Sampler... I enjoy their product and have no issues with my attys... Like everything else when it comes to flavors, it's all subjective...

I have and will continue to buy lesser expensive liquids elsewhere, for budget reasons, but will continue to enjoy JC juices here and there.
 

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I agree with you for the most part. I liked the Cherry tobacco, and the Arctic menthol myself, could not stand the Apple cider or the peach. The rest were vapable and I too loved the packaging. I know some really love it and I do not say they are wrong, just for me the price was too high and I probably would not order again. For that money it would really have to blow me away with greatness.
 

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Original Tennessee Cured is my all time favorite liquid. I have tried about a dozen vendors, but nothing gives me that perfect taste and flavor that the TC has for me. I just wish it wasn't so expensive and the shipping kills.

For tobacco tastes, want2vape is hard to beat. Everything else I've tried tastes too artificial to me. I hope to find something else eventually though, as TC seems to gunk up my attys and cartos pretty quick. I have a hard time getting anything to work properly for more than a few days before I lose either the flavor or vapor. I have this problem with other liquids, though, too. I tend to like the darker, heavier flavors like coffee, chocolate, etc. and I feel that my problems may be inherent to that style of liquid.
 

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Nice review. Reminds me to never try Johnson's Creek LOL

Heh! Thanks. To each their own. I found JC to be a mixed bag. Service was quick, packaging was outstanding, but some of the flavors could use some work.

Like many of their fans, in the end, I just had to move on. :(
That stinks. I broke up with one of my favorite vendors too. It’s alright, just an opportunity to try new stuff out.

Man, I hope that is not true anymore - I am really hooked on the Solstice and now the Black Cherry as well....
The Solstice sounds intriguing. Do you get any hints of that manmade flavor coming through?

I guess I like the kryptonite. To each his own as long as everyone stays off of cigarettes.
LOL! You’re right, of course. The best brand is the one that keeps you off the smokes.

For now there are cheaper options out there that vape just as good.
I agree. I keep seeing reviews of NLV and I’ve got to admit, I’m intrigued. I tried JC simply because a vendor I wanted to try out wasn’t able to process my order. The only other e-liquid I’ve purchased that was more expensive was ECOpure. Unlike JC, ECOpure blew me away. Good stuff and worth the $1 p/ml.

I have and will continue to buy lesser expensive liquids elsewhere, for budget reasons, but will continue to enjoy JC juices here and there.

While taste may be subjective, $ per ml isn’t. I think this is a good reminder that there are some great value priced liquids out there. I wish you could try before you buy, but alas we do not live in a perfect world. ;)

I think all flavors where gross.. sent them all back.. No matter what flavor it was, it all had JC funk in every batch.
“The JC Funk”. LOL. Yes, there is a background flavor to every liquid sample. I found it to be infinitely more tolerable than the usual saccharine sweet flavors of most liquids, but I do agree it’s got a touch of funk to it.
I agree with you for the most part. I liked the Cherry tobacco, and the Arctic menthol myself, could not stand the Apple cider or the peach. The rest were vapable and I too loved the packaging. I know some really love it and I do not say they are wrong, just for me the price was too high and I probably would not order again. For that money it would really have to blow me away with greatness.
I’m in agreement with most of this. The stuff was vapable, but not in my top ten favorite flavors of all time. Would I give JC another shot? Sure, but I have other vendors I’d like to try ahead of them. Since the list of flavors I want to try is pretty long, it may be sometime before I revist JC.

For tobacco tastes, want2vape is hard to beat. Everything else I've tried tastes too artificial to me. I hope to find something else eventually though, as TC seems to gunk up my attys and cartos pretty quick. I have a hard time getting anything to work properly for more than a few days before I lose either the flavor or vapor. I have this problem with other liquids, though, too. I tend to like the darker, heavier flavors like coffee, chocolate, etc. and I feel that my problems may be inherent to that style of liquid.

I’m a huge fan of Want2Vape’s Managua, but it is an atty executor. Like you, I am a coffee fan. I’ve pretty much accepted that my atty is going to last about a week, I’ll get one good cleaning out of it and then it’s time for a new one. I know some folks use atomizer restore products, or do dry burns (I tend to just pop atomizers when I try that) or denture cleaner, etc… I drop mine in an ultrasonic cleaner with some vodka and give them a 10 minute cycle. This helps, but it seems like after the second cleaning, atomizers just don’t work as well. That’s fine. I’ll stick to the flavors I like and keep purchasing atomizers in bulk. I can’t speak to whether or not JC liquids really kill atomizers. Hard to tell when a 3ml sample is all you have to run through your equipment.
 

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I wouldn't mind getting a few JC products every now and then, but their Priority Mail shipping keeps me away. For now there are cheaper options out there that vape just as good.


I have been looking for a juice that is very similar to Artic menthol any ideas on where I should look?
Thanks
 

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The Solstice sounds intriguing. Do you get any hints of that manmade flavor coming through?

No, and I think I know what you are talking about. No the solstice has soooo much good flavor to it, LOVE the scent of it too. When I first smelled it I knew I was probably going to love it. I definitely recommend it. It's the best JC flavor I have tried so far.

It tastes even better in a bloog carto (compared to other standard 808 cartos I have tried). In my opinion. I just ordered a bunch of those after someone gave me one to try cause I was able to fill it up so many times and I think I was getting more flavor out of the juice too.
 

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My perception was that the juices and flavorings were really high quality. Not my cup of tea as they were quite strong for me... I found the Valencia, Wisconsin and Island to be good... Haven't bought them again... but I may one day.
I think there's definitely a place for them among the high-end juice makers... I think those that desire pungent and strong juices would love them.
Very good review BTW
 

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I wouldn't mind getting a few JC products every now and then, but their Priority Mail shipping keeps me away. For now there are cheaper options out there that vape just as good.

I see JC is currently running a 35% off sale on Tennessee Cured so I figured it was a good time to grab a couple of bottles. At that price, the juice is more in line with my budget. :vapor:
 
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