I'm sure it's a generational thing, but in when I was growing up the mantra in my house was "do as I say not as I do."
By 17 I was covertly bending the rules - when I was reasonably sure I wouldn't get caught. At 13, no kids I knew would dare disrespect their parents the way adolescents today do.
Of course, that was when if a kid complained to a teacher or other authority figure that they were spanked or slapped they were told to respect their parents and that's where it ended.
Parents are not supposed to be friends, they are supposed to prepare their kids for life and teach them, you know, respect, right from wrong, and consequences and stuff.
So, 13, no way; 17, perhaps.