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Tania-chch

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I'm 2 months short of 2 years vaping, but recently at the dentist to have a tooth extracted, I was asked if I smoked. Aware that the question was purely for healing purposes, I found myself floundering around, saying "well I don't smoke cigarettes," then thinking that sounds like I smoke [removed], then panicking a bit, and saying that " I vape" but realising that in NZ vaping is unheard of and my dentist is thinking it's another way to smoke [removed]! But despite the fact it's kind of rare here in NZ, she was cool and said it was just the smoke she was worried about. So, end result, I don't know if she'd heard of vaping, or thought I was a [removed] smoker, either way, ok for my extraction? PS. That was my first time with a female dentist, and I must confess when I walked in and she was there on her own and said "hi", I thought she was the nurse. I feel bad for my stereotyping, but she was great! I will be requesting her next time! Shame on me!
 
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That is why I call it an E-Cigarette, when out in the world. Vaping has been around since the 60's, 70's for me. Vaping of Nicotine E-juice is all that is new. If asked, do you smoke? I say, No, but I do use an E-cig. Saves on the confusion with the druggies.

Mods, sorry if this breeches the no Drugs rule... But, sometimes, it is relevant to our cause to utter the words. We do need to start discussing the difference between, us and them.
 

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!!! Don't vape after a tooth extraction!

In all likelihood, you have stitches. For the same reason you wouldn't drink out of a straw, the suction could potentially rip your stitches out. Additionally, foreign particles (vapor, smoke, whatever) might cause an infection in the open wound. Wait a solid day or three before you vape. Use patches or gum if you have to.
 

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    Take some advice from an older guy.

    * is vaping smoking - NO.

    When asked do you smoke say - NO - it's true your not smoking it makes no difference what it's know by you are not smoking cigarettes. I never use the word E-cigarettes, it's not a cigarette and I want to distant myself from cigarettes and misunderstand and hate.

    Most information is shared and you don't want it recorded in a database that you smoke cigarettes - this is the age of big brother. If this isn't true yet it will be one day - It can result in higher insurance rates this is a fact also being denied work or housing and etc.

    Your telling the truth - you don't smoke. Never give more information out then what is asked.
     

    nyiddle

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    Most information is shared and you don't want it recorded in a database that you smoke cigarettes - this is the age of big brother. If this isn't true yet it will be one day - It can result in higher insurance rates this is a fact also being denied work or housing and etc.

    Your telling the truth - you don't smoke. Never give more information out then what is asked.

    This is horrible advice. Do not lie to your insurance company.

    Nowadays they will often just ask if you use nicotine, not whether you smoke it or not. If it's recorded that you do not consume nicotine, and something happens to you wherein they perform a blood test and discover you do consume nicotine (regardless of how you consumed it), your family can be denied money they would be entitled to. They can straight-up rescind your life insurance as a result.

    I repeat, it's imperative that you DO NOT lie to your insurance company. It's an easy way for them to weasel out of a settlement. Higher insurance rates are worth not being outright denied health insurance in the event that they catch you lying.
     
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    mightymen

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    This is horrible advice. Do not lie to your insurance company.

    Nowadays they will often just ask if you use nicotine, not whether you smoke it or not. If it's recorded that you do not consume nicotine, and something happens to you wherein they perform a blood test and discover you do consume nicotine (regardless of how you consumed it), your family can be denied money they would be entitled to. They can straight-up rescind your life insurance as a result.

    I repeat, it's imperative that you DO NOT lie to your insurance company. It's an easy way for them to weasel out of a settlement. Higher insurance rates are worth not being outright denied health insurance in the event that they catch you lying.

    I didn't say lie, I said we are not smoking we're vaping.

    Yes if asked do I use nicotine the answer would be yes.

    I never tell anyone to lie and I don't do it myself.

    My point was never give more information out other then what is ask for.
     

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    !!! Don't vape after a tooth extraction!

    In all likelihood, you have stitches. For the same reason you wouldn't drink out of a straw, the suction could potentially rip your stitches out. Additionally, foreign particles (vapor, smoke, whatever) might cause an infection in the open wound. Wait a solid day or three before you vape. Use patches or gum if you have to.

    ^ This. :thumb:
     
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    Racehorse

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    if asked whether or not i smoke i usually say
    'i switched to electronic'

    That's what I say.

    SInce I expect my health team to work with me on providing me the very best care and treatment, I also do my part in letting them know things about me that may be pertinent.

    I don't HAVE any doctors or dentists who judge me. They just write down the information so it is in the history on my file, in the event there is a reason to know something.

    I would certainly expect that if I developed Reynaud's or something, that my doctor might suggest not using a vaso constrictor, etc. and there are certainly things like open heart surgery, etc. that may be impacted.

    I believe in honesty, so I just follow that standard in my life in general. :) somebody asks me a question and they will receive an honest answer. Can't really see any DOWNSIDES to that in general.
     

    gandymarsh

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    A long time ago, when I had a tooth extracted, the dentist said I should quit smoking while the extraction site healed. He said the suction could cause dry socket which is very painful and slows the healing. I had it once when I was very young. It is extremely painful.

    I didn't quit but I was very careful to move the back of my tongue over the extraction site (it was a rear molar) and draw very lightly. I didn't experience any problems.
     
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