how i fixed burnt cart problem

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hiii98

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everything i try vaping my joyce 510 the cart tastes and smells burnt. so i took out the filler and put in the tea bag solution. that didnt work. so then i removed the wick from the atomizer, that didnt fix the horrible smell taste. so then i put in a new teabag and rahter than dumping the solution into the cart i put 6 drops into the atomizer side. Now it tastes great, the vapor isnt that good, but it fixed the earlier problem of the burnt smell taste ccompletely. What are the pros and cons? thought i read you can flood the atty or something, but so far no problems...
 

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no one knows the answer to this?? the entire ecig tastes like dog crap, this is happening to no one else?? Tastes like smoking burnt popcorn. resolution is to add more liquid (done that , just leaks) put in tea bag, done that doesnt vap, just sits in bag never reaches addy, put drop on ady works good for a few puffs then done, remove wick on addy, still tastes burnt, finally i add about five drops on the addy, stick in cart and it vapes good for a while

oh also did cokecola wash on addy and other tricks, none have worked...so is the secret to pour the goo on the addy and completely ignore filling the cart?? No one answered earlier so i assume this is a difficult question for the new member section.
 

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Sounds like your cart is packed to tite, I use fluval in my carts and drip about 10 to 12 drops into the cart when it starts to taste bad. I'm using an EGO/Tornado with a 510 atty. There's a little bit of a learning curve to get the amount of filler just right, to much and it don't get enough fluid, too little and it floods the atty.
 

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Also, here is an excerpt from the thread linked in my signature below...


Dry atomizers, flooded atomizers, and wicking
Basically, you want to keep your atomizer happy with plenty of juice, but not too much as to flood it.

A good sign that it's flooded is that it gets a little harder to draw on and you get little or no vapor.
Flooding it, however, won't hurt it at all, and you can just blow out the extra juice.

Letting it get too dry, on the other hand, is not good for the atomizer supposedly.
But regardless of whether it is bad for the atomizer or not, you still don't want to do it.

You can tell it is too dry when it starts to taste like crap.
A nasty sort of burnt plastic type of taste.

One reason it might get too dry is if you burn through the juice faster than it can wick up more.
That is why people experiment with different kinds of filler materials to use in their cartridges.

If you take only a drag or two every now and then, you should be fine.
But if you use these like a cigarette, the wicking process will have trouble keeping up.
There are ways to deal with this, and people have different methods that work better for them.

And of course, when the cartridge is running low on juice, it needs topping off for this reason.
 

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There are ways to deal with this, and people have different methods that work better for them.
what are those methods? I'm getting frustrated.... and yes i smoke it like a cigarette, i dont care about the nicotin i need the vapor and lots of it...oh and menthol :)

are you suggesting perhaps smoking it too much is the problem? I've tried different types of filler and nothing is working. Also i don t want to put 1 drip on the atty and have two puffs befor ei have to open it up again and put another drop on it. I dont undersatnd why it tastes burnt at all if i removed the wick, the filler isnt touching it ect... I LOVE vaping now but cant stand the burnt smell/taste.
 

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what are those methods?
I wrote that a long time ago, but the one thing I remember that worked for me before I moved into using different filler material was shaking it like a thermometer every now and then. But you have to be really careful with that or you could shake it too much and get juice coming out the holes where the atomizer connects with the battery.

I'm getting frustrated.... and yes i smoke it like a cigarette, i dont care about the nicotin i need the vapor and lots of it...oh and menthol.
If you want lots of vapor, you should get juice that has some VG mixed in.
Or you could mix it in yourself.

are you suggesting perhaps smoking it too much is the problem?
Smoking it too frequently in a short period of time sucks up juice faster than it can wick more up, and leads to a burnt taste from having a dry atomizer.

I've tried different types of filler and nothing is working.
What have you tried and why isn't it working?

Also i don t want to put 1 drip on the atty and have two puffs befor ei have to open it up again and put another drop on it.
You should drip at least two drops, and maybe even three.

I dont undersatnd why it tastes burnt at all if i removed the wick, the filler isnt touching it ect... I LOVE vaping now but cant stand the burnt smell/taste.
Maybe you have run it dry so many times it now has burnt on gunk.

You might want to try this method for cleaning your atomizer and start over...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/69834-my-atty-resurrection-method.html

Don't worry though, just keep reading and trying things and you'll get it working for you.
We all go through this to some extent in the beginning.
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If you vape too much and burn tha bridge of the atomizer, you are better to have two at the go at one time. Either get a passthrough or more batteries. That way, if one starts to loose flavor, you can switch to the other. Or you can have more than one cart at the ready.

passthrough should be in tomorrow, i cant wait to try it. I burn the batteries out all the time on mine.

to the other poster, i mix all my juice with VG, not a big fan of PG

also i tried the shake method and it actually seemed to help alittle

i tried the regular (poly fill?) and that was the worst in my opinion. I followed some youtube videso about making tea bag filters and that didnt fix the problem (perhaps the poly fill was already burnt onto the addy somewhere...?)

the entire cart setup seems silly to me if your vaping why itsnt it just vaporizing the liquid? why make a system that puts the bridge onto anything that can burn and not vaporize? Just frustrated as I really am switching completely from analogs and want to make this switch perment.

also am i smoking this too much? I really rarely smoke when i was a smoker about 4 a day. Now with this ecig i puff on it all the time... i wonder if this is more harmful to me than the analogs...gotta be more nicotein (but i do cut with VG)
 

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i tried the regular (poly fill?) and that was the worst in my opinion. I followed some youtube videso about making tea bag filters and that didnt fix the problem (perhaps the poly fill was already burnt onto the addy somewhere...?)
I personally don't believe ANY filler will burn at 3.7v unless you get a stray fiber of polyfill down into the atomizer. So assuming that is not the case, which it very well might be, then it isn't the filler that you are getting the burnt taste from, it is the atomizer. And yes, the polyfill is not a great filler, which is why people use other fillers.

When you say it didn't fix the problem, should I assume you mean a burnt taste you can't get rid of? If so, like I said before, you have probably run the atomizer dry so many times it now has burnt on gunk.

If that's the case you will HAVE to clean it if you ever hope to stop the burnt taste.

Use this method to clean your atomizer, and then start over...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...on-method.html
 
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