Hookah Smoker Looking for a Good E-Cig

[Hojo]

Hey there! I love the community that you guys have created around a niche hobby. As a member of an online hookah community, it hits really close to home.

I have been smoking hookah for 2 years, and cigarettes for maybe a year and a half. My cigarette smoking has always been an "I'll quit later!" kind of thing, but after talking to a friend who used E-Cigs to quit on his first try, I figured it was worth a shot.

The problem is, I don't like spending money on something if I have no idea what kind of deal I'm getting. That leads me here. I came to do some research, but I still have a few questions and hopefully you guys can give me some recommendations.

My hookah hobby comes into play when it comes to looking for an E-Cig. Shisha, for those who don't know, produces huge clouds of smoke with a very strong flavor and pretty strong nicotine content (well, the GOOD shisha, anyway). While I know exactly what to look for when it comes to hookah, I am lost when it comes to E-Cigs.

Is there a good E-Cig out there that produces at least decent-sized clouds and a really strong flavor? Also, since hookah has a variety of flavors, I want something that is easily refilled with e-juice so I'm not completely stuck with a single flavor (i.e. pre-filled carts don't really appeal to me). And, while I have heard that this is a "phase" that I will soon leave behind me, I want it to be roughly the same size and shape as an analog cigarette. Battery life isn't TOO terribly important. I know I can't have my cake and smoke it, too.

Also, I know there are a lot of shady sites out there, so links to reputable sites (for E-Cigs AND good, strong-flavored juice) are more than appreciated. I know it's asking for a lot, but even if any of you could give me a nudge in the right direction, I would greatly appreciate it.

My lungs are in your hands, ECF. Thank you so much!

 

[CaptJay]

For big clouds of vapor you'll want at least SOME VG in your juices - you can have 100% VG if you want but you'll lose TH if you exclude PG altogether. Bear in mind that not all suppliers will do 100% VG - I do think its a lot softer than a mix of the 2 and good if you dont want much TH or stronger flavors.
A small PV (ok Id say roughly the size of a 100 cig) with fairly short battery life (they do go together) is a 510 regular - I got mine from here in fact this kit Im linking (cheap and decent - good company too) Joye 510 NO BOX. That the basic kit although I got a PT with mine (seperately) cos I surf a lot
The better battery life is Joye eGo not a LOT bigger but the battery is slighly fatter (about the size of an AA battery in circumference)

As for juice - well - so many! lol
I HAVE seen one of the forum suppliers offers 'hookah' juices in lots of choices - its like the stuff used in a hookah but its not exactly the same - it just mimics the flavors but for the LIFE of me I can't find it to link it for you
If youre NOT looking for hookah flavor/type juices then Tasty Vapor does some really nice flavors, very popular vendor around these parts too, I use him myself. Id suggest you get at least 30% VG for LOTS of vapor though.
Hope that was some help
Welcome btw

 

[CaptJay]

I found it lol Its actually a vendor I dont use very often so I cannot guarantee the quality - however the company is sound. https://strictlyejuice.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=65_40&zenid=bfobvsl2a7vm8hgr4foumcp2m7

 

[Automaton]

I think you may really like dripping with a 510.

The 510 is well-known for giving off lots of vapor, and drippers swear by the flavor. However, you do have to drip fairly frequently. 4 drops or so is equal to a cigarette, in terms of number of puffs. You can buy a drip tip to make dripping easier (you may like the curve of it too, it's somewhat like a tiny hookah tip). But, for going out or something, you can always use carts or cartomizers for longevity too.

If you want to drip, I'd also recommend you get a manual battery (button activated). the battery is sealed on the manuals, meaning if you flood the atty it can't drip into the battery and wreck it.

You can buy a kit for about $35, and you may want to play around with flavor samples or maybe even making your own juice.

ElectroNicStix sells the 510 kits, and they're great. I got my Kr808 there, and nothing but good things to say about them.

For juices, check out MyFreedomSmokes (I've bought from them - also great), Vapor Bomb, or Tasty Vapor. All have excellent reputations.

For DIY juice, check out One Stop DIY Shop. Excellent customer service and really good prices. I love them!

Welcome to ECF, and don't hesitate to ask questions!

 

[Hojo]

Thank you guys so much! I was leaning toward the 510, as everyone here swears by it, but I was just making sure there wasn't something better out there for my needs before I pulled the trigger and bought this one.

Also, thanks for pushing me toward the hookah flavors. This site has mint (my favorite hookah flavor), so I may just be in heaven.

Could someone please quickly explain what dripping and cartos are, as well as the pros and cons of each, and whether I need to buy something special in order to do either/both of them?

 

[CaptJay]

Dripping - which is my prefrrred method - is just putting a couple of drops of juice on the atty bridge, attaching a cart taht contains NO filler and using it as a mouthpiece and vaping. You can buy special tips to use instead of the empty carts (cignot have some on their site - Delrin tips) which mean you dont have to remove the tip to drip (it has a hole in the center for the juice to be added). You can also buy some sexy aluminum ones from Super T manufacturing.

Cartos are an atty and a cart in one. They offer convenience especially if you are out n about. You can also drip with those, buy them pre-filled, or fill blank ones (in the same way as carts) You can buy them for the 510 as well.

 

[Automaton]

Thank you guys so much! I was leaning toward the 510, as everyone here swears by it, but I was just making sure there wasn't something better out there for my needs before I pulled the trigger and bought this one.

Also, thanks for pushing me toward the hookah flavors. This site has mint (my favorite hookah flavor), so I may just be in heaven.

Could someone please quickly explain what dripping and cartos are, as well as the pros and cons of each, and whether I need to buy something special in order to do either/both of them?

There are a couple kinds of e-cigs. A 3-piece, and a 2-piece.

A 3-piece has a battery, an atomizer, and a cart. You can use them by filling the cart with juice, and the atomizer will vaporize that way, or you can drip juice straight on to the atomizer.

Dripping has to be done more frequently than filling carts, but some people say the flavor is better.

People who drip often use drip tips, because it eliminates needing to remove the cart top every time they drip.

The 2-piece is a battery and a cartomizer. This is what I use (Kr808, but there's a cartomizer for the 510 too). This is where the atomizer and the cart are combined, with the atomizer running up the middle and vaporizing the liquid in the filler.

These go for much longer between needing to be refilled, but it's hard to switch flavors, and some people don't care for the taste while others love it.

I'm suggesting dripping because it's an easy way to mess with flavors, and people also tend to get a bit more vapor out of a 3-piece than a 2-piece.

Your 510 kit will probably come as a 3-piece, but you can purchase 510 cartomizers too. Handy for going out and not having time to drip or something. I believe they sell them on the site I referenced to you.

The cartomizers screw right on the battery, just like the atomizer would. Nothing special required.

 

[Kahuna]

as a long time hookah smoker (15+ years), I would suggest a 510. Start out with the cart it comes with for a few days to "season" the atty (like breaking in a new car). The smoke will be weak for the first few hours to a couple days. Then you can start messing with dripping tips and even swapping out the filler in carts (I used blue foam).

As far as liquid goes, it will be close but not quite like smoking your hookah. I smoke Tangiers normally (what the big boys smoke! hehe) and it's headier and far stronger than candy like Star Buzz/Fantasia/Social Smoke. VG gives clouds. Almost the ".... off clouds" we hookah smokers expect from shisha/mo'assel. But in Vaping, it lacks the transport PG has for flavor. Personally, I don't care about TH since TH in a hookah = harsh smoke. I care about flavor though. If a vendor doesn't offer a blend of PG and VG, I buy unflavored VG nic juice and add additional flavors. personally I like more VG than PG in a mix. So don't go looking for Blue Mist, Pink Lemonade, or Double Apple because it doesn't exist. But mint/menthol is very easy to find. I like mixing mint with just about everything except coffee/caramel/nut flavors. strictlyejuice.com has hookah line of samplers. For example their hookah grape tastes like naklah/al fakher grape rather than bubble gum/candy grape. I just wish it was 3 times stronger in taste.

You will find vaping is ... airier. Flavors will be weaker, but still tasty. You can buy flavorings to enhance e-juice, to kick up the flavor. But use too much, it will taste like you broke a sharpy pen in your mouth.

The draw will be hard, like drinking a McDonalds shake hard (sooo unlike a Narbish hose and a phunnel/vortex bowl). A mouth draw then inhale seems to be the right technique because of the constricted pull. Full body/hookah draw makes my throat burn and I swear will cause a blood vessel in my head to burst (hehe); oddly a lot of vapers like that throat burn.

Hope that helps, cheers.

 

[jetracer06]

I started a month go and I went with a Kr808 b/c it looks really close to analogs.. If you really want the closest size to an actually cigarette then the Shortys from vapor4life.com would suite you. They're more on the hassle free side as far as carts and atomizers go i think..
As far as flavors go... at first, I didn't care about the flavors, I just wanted a good tobacco flavor and menthol flavor... When i receive my stuff, there were some free flavors that were thrown in compliments of V4L.com.. After trying the Kiwi Apple Strawberry I was a changed man.. It really surprised me at how much it tasted like a hookah.. It also had a more than expected vapor delivery.. although every flavor has a different vapor amount..(from my exp) It was very clean tasting and fruitfull at the right amount.
Been a hookah smoker for long time, I can say kinda like my vape better.. not water or sticky tobacco to mess with.. no coals to heat and foil to wrap up.. I got an over 3.5 ft titanium hookah that I probably won't use anymore.. neways you could always get empty carts with different fruit flavors and make ur own blends to substitute ur hookah smoking.. jus my two cents.. good luck yo

 

[BiffRocko]

4 drops or so is equal to a cigarette, in terms of number of puffs.

With most juice, four drops will flood my attys. Two drops is all I ever use and that's good for about 2-3 cigarettes worth of puffs, again depending on the juice.

 

[USAGeorge]

BTW there are Shisha flavors out there!

 

[Kobudo]

As a fellow (albeit very occasional) hookah user, I have to mention that you can get KR808-D1 batteries and a 901 atomizer to work with them as well. The 510 (which I haven't used personally) tends to create more vapor and is "warmer" than the 901, but the 901 produces more flavor (so I've heard). You can drip on the 901 just like the 510. I have found that a 901 gives a fairly reasonable comparison in "feel" and "taste" to a hookah, though you'll never get the same visible results you get from a hookah.

 

[afireinsideok]

id do a 5v mod or at least so lr atties and vg, you are use to getting clouds of smoke so you should enjoy clouds of vapor lol

 

[CaptJay]

I looked up that url you just posted - those kits are VERY expensive with $99 being the cheapest and thats just for ONE PV - even with 20% off thats a lot more than a standard eGo kit which retails around $70 for TWO PV..
It also says one cart = a pack of 20 cigs which is really not true.

 

[SalientOrange]

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[mikebill23]

i mean you can order whatever you like but i had a lot of kinds and this is the best e cigarette i ever smoked!!
i mean you can get for cheap but not this one!

 

[CaptJay]

Why would I buy something that expensive though when I can get TWO kits for less that are proven to work well lol
ANyway you're hijacking someone's thread and by replying to you so am I so I'll cease.

 

[mikebill23]

ok, you can look at it this way,
if you will find the same e-cigg cheaper than 80$ i would order u a new one.allright ?!?!
i was looking on the internet for hours before i placed an order!!!!!

 

[son et lumiere]

I have tried the strictlyejuice Hookah and it tastes really good.