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Beste,,
Ik vape nu zo'n 6maanden en ben begonnen men coil zelf te maken.
Ik gebruik Dead Rabbit solo rta op een geekvape-legende maar ga overstappen op een rdta tank.
Ik gebruik nu kanthal wire 24awg
Ik heb ook ni80 28-32amg
Welke draad raad je me aan ervoor voor beste maar dan allerbeste smaak eruit te halen? En welke Cotton raad je me aan?

Ik zou graag de beste smaak willen uithalen uit mannen tank. Wat is het beste wattage vooraf? En wat is de beste ohm? Ik ben pas begonnen met zelf coils te maken en wil het beste eruit halen maar zelf sukkel ik voor oplossingen. Kan iemand helpen?

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Dutch huh? Looks really similar to German. In Europe the best cotton isn’t cotton. It’s this rayon wound care fluff. As far as best wire Ni80 is great if you’re not allergic to nickel (a lot of people are). Myself I like to use 316L stainless, but it’s not the best, merely very convenient.
 
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Hi!
I agree about the wire, ni80 is an excellent choice. What about cotton? I vaping since 2016 and have been using kendo vape cotton for 3 years now. Juice conductivity is excellent, durability is probably one of the best.
It looks like it's covered in wax. Therefore, the first use may seem strange. It takes some getting used to.
Beste,,
Ik vape nu zo'n 6maanden en ben begonnen men coil zelf te maken.
Ik gebruik Dead Rabbit solo rta op een geekvape-legende maar ga overstappen op een rdta tank.
Ik gebruik nu kanthal wire 24awg
Ik heb ook ni80 28-32amg
Welke draad raad je me aan ervoor voor beste maar dan allerbeste smaak eruit te halen? En welke Cotton raad je me aan?

Ik zou graag de beste smaak willen uithalen uit mannen tank. Wat is het beste wattage vooraf? En wat is de beste ohm? Ik ben pas begonnen met zelf coils te maken en wil het beste eruit halen maar zelf sukkel ik voor oplossingen. Kan iemand helpen?

Bedankt.
 

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    Hi!
    I agree about the wire, ni80 is an excellent choice. What about cotton? I vaping since 2016 and have been using kendo vape cotton for 3 years now. Juice conductivity is excellent, durability is probably one of the best.
    It looks like it's covered in wax. Therefore, the first use may seem strange. It takes some getting used to.

    Kendo stays together long after other cotton turns to mush. Good stuff.
     
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    Hi!
    I agree about the wire, ni80 is an excellent choice. What about cotton? I vaping since 2016 and have been using kendo vape cotton for 3 years now. Juice conductivity is excellent, durability is probably one of the best.
    It looks like it's covered in wax. Therefore, the first use may seem strange. It takes some getting used to.
    Allergy to nickel is supposed to be really common. Something like 30%. So it wouldn’t surprise me if the OP wasn’t but it also wouldn’t surprise me if they were. I find the differences from one wire type to the other to be minimal, but I am not known for my sense of taste.
     
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    Translation by my personal LLAMA...

    Best,,
    I've been vaping for about 6 months and started making my own coils.
    I use Dead Rabbit Solo RTA on a GeekVape Legend but plan to switch to an RDTA tank.
    I'm using kanthal wire 24AWG now
    I also have Ni80 28-32AG
    Which wire would you recommend for best but then the best taste out of it? And what cotton do you recommend?

    I'd like to get the best taste out of my man's tank. What's the best wattage to start with? And what's the best ohm? I'm just starting with making coils myself and want to get the most out of it but I'm struggling for solutions.
    Thanks.
     

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    If you are using this -- GeekVape Legend

    With this -- rabbit-solo-rta

    You're not going to be able to use large builds. In my opinion, single-coil builds are the way to go. Your going to get big flavour and not go through a ton of juice. Many may disagree with me, but dual coil builds do not always equal big flavour. They use a lot more juice and that does not always equal more flavor.

    I personally don't like RTA's. The last one I had was an OBS nano. Worked great, was a mini-flavor monster. For the most part, I use RDTA's and RDA's. Here is some good information on what the difference is between them. I believe the device you're using can do up to 200 watts. I personally never need more than 100 on a regulated device. If I need POWER I break out a mechanical device. :shock:

    If you want to experiment with different wire types or sizes of coils an RDA is the way to go. As far as how many watts to use that depends on the type of wire, how many ohms the wire comes out to, and the type of juice one is using. I am using a phantom-type coil that comes out to .25 ohms. I am vaping a strong tobacco juice at 55 watts. If it's another juice I might set it at more or less 55 watts. Some devices have a preheat function. If I am using a thick coil I may set it to run at 80 to 100 watts during the first few seconds. Airflow also makes a difference. Again that varies between device, juice and power. You're only going to know what's good for you by experimenting. I have a single coil recurve RDA I use when I cannot make up my mind what sort I juice I want. That's a great one if you can find it.

    I would search the forum. Then ask questions. For the most, it's all about experimentation. With the device you have you should be able to do quite a bit of experimentation. Maybe invest in a few RDAs. We honestly can only give you technical information, you're going to have to find out what is best for you by trial and error, using the forum as a guide. Do the research, work and learn. That's me being honest. I would also post and ask questions in English. If you need help using a translator We can do that as well. You're going to get many more answers to your questions.


     
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    Translation by my personal LLAMA...

    Best,,
    I've been vaping for about 6 months and started making my own coils.
    I use Dead Rabbit Solo RTA on a GeekVape Legend but plan to switch to an RDTA tank.
    I'm using kanthal wire 24AWG now
    I also have Ni80 28-32AG
    Which wire would you recommend for best but then the best taste out of it? And what cotton do you recommend?

    I'd like to get the best taste out of my man's tank. What's the best wattage to start with? And what's the best ohm? I'm just starting with making coils myself and want to get the most out of it but I'm struggling for solutions.
    Thanks.
    Those don’t really work with RBAs like they do for coil cartridges because the resistance of a coil is infinite, not just a few choices. You can wick it MTL and use a tiny coil with a well above 1 ohm, or you can wick it DL and use a much larger exotic coil of well below 1ohm. Both work. With a coil cartridge there are a few coil sizes that are “best at” whatever volts, and usually they’re right. With a rebuildable you’ve got choice, and as a result there is no ‘best’

    I can tell you that whatever is is is going to be in the 2.85-4v range, so depending on what you like of you’ve got a coil between .6 and .4 ohm it’s going to be most likely between 15 and 40w generally, but literally every build is a bit different. Iirc mine is 22w atm. That’s equally useless though
     
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    Those don’t really work with RBAs like they do for coil cartridges because the resistance of a coil is infinite, not just a few choices. You can wick it MTL and use a tiny coil with a well above 1 ohm, or you can wick it DL and use a much larger exotic coil of well below 1ohm. Both work. With a coil cartridge there are a few coil sizes that are “best at” whatever volts, and usually they’re right. With a rebuildable you’ve got choice, and as a result there is no ‘best’

    True. I love rebuildables because I can find my best and repeat it, tweak it, or whatever. Never been one for MTL. I don't know much about it. I usually unload them fast when I find them in "bulk" buys. The Last one had a few Greek and German items that are MTL. One Greek RTA I have never seen before. It has a bubble glass. LOL a case of these as well...
     

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    Best for what? The thicker a wire is the longer it lasts but the lower it’s ohms. Also since attys with more than one coil in them (the highest number I personally have vaped is 4) you need to group them together (example: 4 1 ohm coils would be a total resistance of .25ohm) The dead rabbit solo is single coil. Double is common though, and I have seen 3 coil RDAs and have 2 4 coil RDAs. Generally RTAs are 1 or 2 coils.
     
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    Best for what? The thicker a wire is the longer it lasts but the lower it’s ohms. Also since attys with more than one coil in them (the highest number I personally have vaped is 4) you need to group them together (example: 4 1 ohm coils would be a total resistance of .25ohm) The dead rabbit solo is single coil. Double is common though, and I have seen 3 coil RDAs and have 2 4 coil RDAs. Generally RTAs are 1 or 2 coils.

    ?????

    LOL I was saying that if this person is flavour chasing, in my opinion, they don't need to necessity go with a giant dualcoil build. I tend to like single-coil builds. Just an opinion. There where endless debates years ago on tanks, coils and all that. Not going there. I only know what I know from my experience. They need to find out what works best for them. No one can tell them. They need to find the knowledge and do the work. Fail, learn, succeed, etc. They need to find their "best".
     
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    Translation by my personal LLAMA...

    Best,,
    I've been vaping for about 6 months and started making my own coils.
    I use Dead Rabbit Solo RTA on a GeekVape Legend but plan to switch to an RDTA tank.
    I'm using kanthal wire 24AWG now
    I also have Ni80 28-32AG
    Which wire would you recommend for best but then the best taste out of it? And what cotton do you recommend?

    I'd like to get the best taste out of my man's tank. What's the best wattage to start with? And what's the best ohm? I'm just starting with making coils myself and want to get the most out of it but I'm struggling for solutions.
    Thanks.
    You’ve got a personal llama?! I’ve always wanted one of those. I understand they’re great for carrying golf clubs though they may spit at you…
     

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    You’ve got a personal llama?! I’ve always wanted one of those. I understand they’re great for carrying golf clubs though they may spit at you…

    :shock: It is generative AI. An LLM. It runs on our home network. Free and private. I have added 30 years of notes to it. I could scrape this entire forum and add that. I would ask their permission of course. LM Studio - Experiment with local LLMs

    Llama_Repo.jpeg
     
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    ?????

    LOL I was saying that if this person is flavour chasing, in my opinion, they don't need to necessity go with a giant dualcoil build. I tend to like single-coil builds. Just an opinion. There where endless debates years ago on tanks, coils and all that. Not going there. I only know what I know from my experience. They need to find out what works best for them. No one can tell them. They need to find the knowledge and do the work. Fail, learn, succeed, etc. They need to find their "best".
    If you thought that was confusing wait till you see my post about personal llamas.

    The best flavor I got was by wicking a steamcrave aromamizer plus with a single big coil using a dual coil deck. That particular device has a gigantic chamber and I filled it. I did a multi ohm coil using a knitting needle for a mandrel and a lot of very thin wire. So thin that the coil collapsed when I pulled the cotton out of it so it was good for one(1) wick. That wick was maybe a quarter inch thick iirc. For DL I Find I prefer exotic coils, and since I don’t especially enjoy making exotic wire I usually just buy the things. They put more surface area on the wire for a given ohm rating which I find helps. I like RDAs so consequently I like squonkers. My favorite RDTA is the steamcrave aromamizer but a lot of people roundly hate the thing. It is monstrously large, famous for using lots of juice, and will leak (a lot. Like “go wash your hands” a lot) if you don’t wick it right AND use its cutoffs. (Plural). It’s the only tank I know of though that can flat out beat any machine made stuff (be it disposables, pods, coil cartridges, or premade coils) with regular ol’ straight wire though. It’s a cloud chasers tank and a flavor chasers tank at the same time. The cost being that it’s huge and uses lots of juice. I DIY though so the using lots of juice thing doesn’t really affect me financially. Carry one around though and it says “I vape” in a pretty indisputable way. The thing is as big as half (or a whole if you use the tank extension) a roll of fifty cent pieces. It won’t fit well on some mods.
     
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    If you thought that was confusing wait till you see my post about personal llamas.

    The best flavor I got was by wicking a steamcrave aromamizer plus with a single big coil using a dual coil deck. That particular device has a gigantic chamber and I filled it. I did a multi ohm coil using a knitting needle for a mandrel and a lot of very thin wire. So thin that the coil collapsed when I pulled the cotton out of it so it was good for one(1) wick. That wick was maybe a quarter inch thick iirc. For DL I Find I prefer exotic coils, and since I don’t especially enjoy making exotic wire I usually just buy the things. They put more surface area on the wire for a given ohm rating which I find helps. I like RDAs so consequently I like squonkers. My favorite RDTA is the steamcrave aromamizer but a lot of people roundly hate the thing. It is monstrously large, famous for using lots of juice, and will leak (a lot) if you don’t wick it right AND use its cutoffs. It’s the only tank I know of though that can flat out beat machine any made stuff (be it disposables, pods, coil cartridges, or premade coils) with regular ol’ straight wire though. It’s a cloud chasers tank and a flavor chasers tank at the same time. The cost being that it’s huge and uses lots of juice.

    I never had a squonker. You gave a perfect example of experimentation. I keep the pins and original boxes of the tanks I buy. May try it out if I find one at a decent price. The person who asked the question may be interested. I don't know what the regulations are in the EU, if that's where they are located.:greengrin:
     

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    I went searching for squonk mods recently and had trouble finding one in stock. The vandyvape pulse2(imho the best squonker I ever used) is unobtanium and the vandyvape pulse3 is both out of stock everywhere and is not on any “ best squonkers of 2024” the way the pulse2 was. There are single 18650s dual18650s single 21700s (pulse2) and dual 21700s. The dual ones are the size of triples because of the juice bladder. I found a boxer clone for $20 though (I paid over a Benjamin for my boxer) it’s 3d printed, looks like a bar of soap, and only comes in baby blue. I don’t know what it is using for electronics, but the $20 price leaves me a bit scared. I will find out shortly. Squonkers usually run ~$60-120. The original boxer used DNA
     

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