I've got a question about my Geek Bar Pulse. It seems to be zero in ejuice level, but I can still get a hit from it. Has anyone else experienced this?
Geek Bar Pulse Out of Juice but Still Hitting?
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Sounds reasonable. disposables are generally low quality plastic mechs with really cheap and occasionally dangerous systems (above and beyond that even of decent mechs) and as such any claim of “no juice left’’ is going to be subject to a cheap meter that may not be very accurate. More commonly disposables with auto switches have the switch die before the juice is actually gone and people think they’re “empty” even though they're just busted. Auto switches are absurdly fragile and can foul after just a few puffs sometimes. Theres a reason decent mods stopped using them and went with buttons. Pod systems can be just as bad. Coil cartridges systems generally aren’t, though since its an enclosed cartridge there’s no real way to be sure.
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Thanks for sharing your insights! It's good to know about the potential issues with auto switches in disposables. I'll keep that in mind and maybe look into more reliable options. Appreciate the heads up!
I've just recently went from cigarettes to raping, and Geek bar pulse B-Pop is my choice. I've had it for 3 weeks + and it is still also hitting and been on 0 juice for a week.
That strikes me as reasonable, though likely uncommon. Disposables are by definition cheaply made, even though long term they are actually fantastically expensive. and they have vacuum switches which are wildly unreliable. The only reason they can even be used is they are constantly replaced and disposables have no tank access which makes them somewhat more reliable. I could see such things being designed for early failure. It’s just that that one didn’t. Juice is actually pretty cheap. I’m referring to manufacturing cost not price. I strongly suspect most disposables that are thrown away as “empty” actually aren’t. They just had either the battery wear out or the switch died. There is probably still juice in the thing.
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There are autos and buttons and autos with backup buttons. The problem with auto switches is there is basically two halves of a bag made out of aluminum foil with an insulator between them. When you inhale the bag collapses and the two sides touch. The problem is if anything… and I mean anything gets in there they don’t work. One of those things is a drop of juice which is why disposables can do auto switches a bit better. Their juice is sealed away. That particular bugbear is controlled. Of course that’s the only one that is controlled. All the others, from drops of spittle, to hair, to crap in the air are still there. So they always die. They used to be the standard, then people came out with buttons and they nearly dissapeared till JUUL came out and made a generation of disposable vapers who all used autos. For me disposables are insanely expensive ($600/mo vs $30/mo is a big difference) so I haven’t used them a lot. Some, because I occasionally forget my regular vape and have to be somewhere for a long period, but probably less than 5% of my vaping has been done on disposables. They’re just too expensive in the long run.
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I’ve been on zero nic juice for a month now and I still find myself getting surly if I can’t find my vape. I expect it to take a while.
As for why a disposable might read empty but not actually BE empty. The things are made as cheaply as possible even though they add up to being incredibly expensive over time. You expect more than minimal accuracy from a minimal device? The juice “container” is generally a piece of pith (or the modern equivalent) soaked in liquid and enclosed in a shell, like a marker. How is one supposed to get accuracy out of that? Another possibility is that due to careful handling and a clean environment the auto switch did not fail as early as expected. Those things generally eventually get a piece of dust in them and die (it only takes one) but they strictly speaking don’t have to. A lot of times “empty” really just means the switch failed. Tinfoil vacuum switches (which is what all autos have) are just like that. One microscopic piece of crud in the “bag” and the sides don’t touch so no current flows.
You may notice that “real” or non disposable vapes always have buttons? This is why. Button switches are button switches. They work or they don’t. They’re not work for a few days then die only to briefly come back to life a week later because the microscopic piece of dust gumming up the whole think fell out.
When vapes first came out before 2010 they were ALL auto switches. Somebody got sick of their device always dying and rigged in a button instead. A year later there were almost no auto vapes. It’s not new awesome tech. It’s old crappy abandoned tech. But it makes some people lots of money so it exists. And unless you buy online it’s all you can have.
As for why a disposable might read empty but not actually BE empty. The things are made as cheaply as possible even though they add up to being incredibly expensive over time. You expect more than minimal accuracy from a minimal device? The juice “container” is generally a piece of pith (or the modern equivalent) soaked in liquid and enclosed in a shell, like a marker. How is one supposed to get accuracy out of that? Another possibility is that due to careful handling and a clean environment the auto switch did not fail as early as expected. Those things generally eventually get a piece of dust in them and die (it only takes one) but they strictly speaking don’t have to. A lot of times “empty” really just means the switch failed. Tinfoil vacuum switches (which is what all autos have) are just like that. One microscopic piece of crud in the “bag” and the sides don’t touch so no current flows.
You may notice that “real” or non disposable vapes always have buttons? This is why. Button switches are button switches. They work or they don’t. They’re not work for a few days then die only to briefly come back to life a week later because the microscopic piece of dust gumming up the whole think fell out.
When vapes first came out before 2010 they were ALL auto switches. Somebody got sick of their device always dying and rigged in a button instead. A year later there were almost no auto vapes. It’s not new awesome tech. It’s old crappy abandoned tech. But it makes some people lots of money so it exists. And unless you buy online it’s all you can have.
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**sigh** Yet another driveby. Closing. @Eightvapejasmine if you want to reopen, you can, but a comment in this thread is attracting unwanted attention from people who sign up, comment, then disappear never to return.
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