Easy coil builds for noobies

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Well the title says it all. Noobie coil builds. I will do a few videos on how to build various newbie coils and descriptions on what they do, what they are best suited for. These are not advanced coils by any means, but for someone that has never built a coil and wants to know how to.. these will be a good start. This thread was suggested to me by someone that had indicated an interest in beginner coil builds. So here goes...

Keep in mind, I don't have a professional set up, and I'm filming with a $5 webcam (that incidentally doesn't work with proper drivers. LOL I had to use splitcam drivers to get it to work at all.)

Steam Engine main page is the tool I use to figure wraps, gauge and resistance as well as heat / watts.
 
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Spaced coils, contact coils, tensioned micro coils and twisted wire are the 4 easiest to make. In my opinion.

I would say parallels, but they can be tricky for the new builder to mount correctly.
I cheat.. I twist the ends of the coils to keep the wires together, then clip off the twists once i have the set in the posts. I also find it easier to coil them on a drill bit IN the drill. I've marked the chuck and drill so I can see when the chuck comes around to count the wraps.
 
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I started out by rebuilding Protank coils (dual coils even!), and then moved to RBAs. It only got more involved from there. Good job putting up these for the beginners.

It is slightly hard to see, but yes, there are two coils in there. I was building around 1Ω at the time, I was fine if it was a little low, the devices I used at the time fired down to .8Ω usually.

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I started out by rebuilding Protank coils (dual coils even!), and then moved to RBAs. It only got more involved from there. Good job putting up these for the beginners.

It is slightly hard to see, but yes, there are two coils in there. I was building around 1Ω at the time, I was fine if it was a little low, the devices I used at the time fired down to .8Ω usually.

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Nice. Hopefully we can get others involved, posting their noobie coils as well.
I'm considering a short series of builds, simple evolving to more complex but still simple. Say, Single coil, then parallel, then twisted, then parallel twisted, then parallel twisted and claptoned. That actually sounds really hard and complex, it isn't really. Once you figure out how to use a drill to straighten your wire.. you can use it to twist 2 (or 3) strands together. That's pretty easy. Now just make 2 of them.. and make a parallel coil from those. Ok, that sounds easy too.. now.. clapton the 2 twisted wires.. LOL That will likely be at the very bottom of the page someplace. And definitely after i get my replacement istick on mon/tues.
 

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Well, I've been rebuilding Kanger single coils @ 2.4 ohm for close to a year now but suppose that doesn't really count?:lol:

Some months ago my local B&M owner, knowing my penchant for older style low power devices, GAVE me 2 RTAs with the comment that he'd never be able to sell these relics anyway. One was an authentic Eleaf Lemo the other a Rocket KF Clone. Took them home and tossed them in a corner on my desk and forgot them. Couple weeks ago I decided to dig out the Lemo and try to get a 1.2 ohm build on it. (Lowest my mods will fire) All I have is 30ga wire but I nailed the 1.2 with a simple 2mm ID spaced 4 wrap. I'm so impressed with the vape that I ordered a second Lemo. But I was kinda thinking that 4 wrap coil was kinda, ummm well, only 4 wraps ya know. So today I got bored and decided to try my hand at a twisted 30ga 2mm ID. Nailed my 1.2 again with 8 wraps. This time it actually LOOKS like a coil that's meant to do something. But ramp time is horrendous and I'm not really noticing any improved vapor production even with the increased surface area. Is it my 15 watt max power Mods? Or is it that 1.2 is 1.2 no matter the surface area? My phone camera leaves a lot to be desired but I'm still purdy proud of my first attempt at a twisted coil. No drill by the way, just tiny vise grips and an even tinier screwdriver. The twists are a lot tighter than they look with my lousy camera. Can't have all the amenities when you live most of your life in an 18 wheel Rollin rubber room.;)
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Well, I've been rebuilding Kanger single coils @ 2.4 ohm for close to a year now but suppose that doesn't really count?:lol:

Some months ago my local B&M owner, knowing my penchant for older style low power devices, GAVE me 2 RTAs with the comment that he'd never be able to sell these relics anyway. One was an authentic Eleaf Lemo the other a Rocket KF Clone. Took them home and tossed them in a corner on my desk and forgot them. Couple weeks ago I decided to dig out the Lemo and try to get a 1.2 ohm build on it. (Lowest my mods will fire) All I have is 30ga wire but I nailed the 1.2 with a simple 2mm ID spaced 4 wrap. I'm so impressed with the vape that I ordered a second Lemo. But I was kinda thinking that 4 wrap coil was kinda, ummm well, only 4 wraps ya know. So today I got bored and decided to try my hand at a twisted 30ga 2mm ID. Nailed my 1.2 again with 8 wraps. This time it actually LOOKS like a coil that's meant to do something. But ramp time is horrendous and I'm not really noticing any improved vapor production even with the increased surface area. Is it my 15 watt max power Mods? Or is it that 1.2 is 1.2 no matter the surface area? My phone camera leaves a lot to be desired but I'm still purdy proud of my first attempt at a twisted coil. No drill by the way, just tiny vise grips and an even tinier screwdriver. The twists are a lot tighter than they look with my lousy camera. Can't have all the amenities when you live most of your life in an 18 wheel Rollin rubber room.;)

More wire takes more power to heat it up. The resistance is the same, yes, but more wattage is the only solution. ;)

If you are a MTL vaper, the Lemo and Lemo 2 are fantastic tanks to use. I preferred the Lemo2 due it it's top fill and slightly more open draw over the Lemo. I starting using both again a couple of months ago for a short time and then this happened to the Lemo 2.

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The Lemo 3, however is an entirely different animal. Dual coil capability, velocity style deck and massive airflow compared to the Lemo and Lemo 2.

I've run everything from contact coils to fused Claptons in the Lemos and they are great.
 

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Well, I've been rebuilding Kanger single coils @ 2.4 ohm for close to a year now but suppose that doesn't really count?:lol:

Some months ago my local B&M owner, knowing my penchant for older style low power devices, GAVE me 2 RTAs with the comment that he'd never be able to sell these relics anyway. One was an authentic Eleaf Lemo the other a Rocket KF Clone. Took them home and tossed them in a corner on my desk and forgot them. Couple weeks ago I decided to dig out the Lemo and try to get a 1.2 ohm build on it. (Lowest my mods will fire) All I have is 30ga wire but I nailed the 1.2 with a simple 2mm ID spaced 4 wrap. I'm so impressed with the vape that I ordered a second Lemo. But I was kinda thinking that 4 wrap coil was kinda, ummm well, only 4 wraps ya know. So today I got bored and decided to try my hand at a twisted 30ga 2mm ID. Nailed my 1.2 again with 8 wraps. This time it actually LOOKS like a coil that's meant to do something. But ramp time is horrendous and I'm not really noticing any improved vapor production even with the increased surface area. Is it my 15 watt max power Mods? Or is it that 1.2 is 1.2 no matter the surface area? My phone camera leaves a lot to be desired but I'm still purdy proud of my first attempt at a twisted coil. No drill by the way, just tiny vise grips and an even tinier screwdriver. The twists are a lot tighter than they look with my lousy camera. Can't have all the amenities when you live most of your life in an 18 wheel Rollin rubber room.;) View attachment 579539

Yep, it counts. Just build for what your mod can handle. The one I have, I can go 5 ohm to 0.8 ohm. I can't even think about how to build a 5 ohm coil.. lol but thats what the website says I can build sooooo, Ill take their word for it.. even if i never actually DO it.

Remember, we are just building simple coils for someone new to building coils.
IE.. for clouds, I would use a flat ribbon wire or maybe 6 wraps of 28ga. For a more flavor build.. I would use 4 wraps of twisted 30ga or 1 single 30ga claptoned with a 30ga wrap. Thats on a low power unit, like a vapepen. On a regular, reg mod, you can get a bit fancier.. like at 40w 9 wraps of 26ga kanthal will give real nice clouds, and 6 wraps of clapton will give decent flavor. Nothing compared to those insane sub ohm builds you see on youtube, but then, you wont be blowing through a 5000ft spool of wire to get 1 6 inch coil.

ok in order of importance.. Don't use a coil with a long ramp up on a low wattage device. Remember ohms law? Just a nudge. lol.. Im sure you do. Anyway, the reason is, a heavy coil, even if it is at 1.2 ohm puts a big drain on a battery that wasn't designed to handle it.. hence more heat within the battery, gasses.. and BOOM.. or POP.. either way, bad juju. In this case, you want to consider it to be a cross between a Regulated and Mech, Yes, the regulated will help, but that battery will still heat up. This was the advice given to me by Jason, from the local shop. You can get away with a little bit.. but I wouldn't fire the coil more than 4 times between charges. (charges not being power, but time to cool down)

No drill? Try a coat hanger.. Bend it into the shape of a crank for an old model T car.. __I"""" and mount it to a board or something so you can just turn it like a handle.

Ok Now this next is what I've been doing... building low wattage, high heat coils.
So lemme see.. flavor + fog at 15w. Hmmmm
try 6 wraps on a 2.0mm core using 0.5x0.1 kanthal ribbon wire.
or 6 1/2 wraps of twisted 32ga kanthal on a 2.0 core.
 
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And another one. This time on an RDA!!! Note, although I am building low wattage builds, the method for higher wattages is exactly the same. Just use the wire building tool at steam engine to calculate.

0.5x0.1 kanthal ribbon
6 wraps (5 works too) on a 3.0 core
Built on a TwistedMesses RDA and....
POWERED on a 6-16w E-Cig battery (Regulated) *somewhat*
Remember.. keep your ramp up times low so you don't over heat and over amp your battery.


I already had one of these coils on the RDA so I just feigned putting the new one one, just so you get the idea.
 
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Claptons can seem simple, but until you find the right technique for you, it can be frustrating.

I started with this 2 years ago -

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And more recently -

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Nice! Good idea posting this. It shows people that no matter how.. ummm ermmm.. "unique" your early coils look, they improve with practice. I will warn those looking for noobie coil building to avoid using a mechanical mod. There are just to many things that can go wrong when you are brand new to coil building. I am guessing that this build on an 80w+ regulated Mod (150+ would be better) would work. But the batteries wouldn't last long. lol
 

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So by now, wrapping a simple coil should come pretty easy, so I'll just post my current simple cloud build and quick video to demonstrate. Dual coil, 11 wraps of 24ga Kanthal each, on a Tsunami deck. Using an IJOY 200w (woot, I got a new box mod! *$139.00+taxes retail, got it for $100.00 taxes in.. PLUS a 15ml bottle of clearance juice (Moose Juice).. I should have quit at the $61.00 off.. this juice is worse than moose pee.. maple and tobacco. GAG! I haven't touched tobacco anything in about 16 weeks.) *It's kind of like.. kissing your friends 90 year old, chain smoking grandmother on the cheek and she turns her head... *
Anyway.. here ya go..
 
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