Does the iTaste VV 3.0 Come Fully Charged? + General VV/VW Question

[ElectronicPull]

Hey, brand new to the forums here and am about to receive my first VV/VW e-cig (tonight or tomorrow). I was wondering from anyone else who owns this device already, does it come fully charged? Even if so, is it a good idea to top it off first before using it for the first time? I've heard in the past that if one doesn't fully charge a device before its 1st time use, that the overall battery strength could be negatively affected.

One more quick question about setting up this vape; I've heard that a general rule of thumb is to start at 6-7w for light/fruity flavors, and 8-9w for richer/coffee flavors. But what voltage should I be at? Something like 3.8v/6w and 4.0v/8w? Any advice or opinions are greatly appreciated.

Looking forward to getting more seriously into the vape scene, right now I have a 180mAh device (paired w/ screw-on cartos manufactured in china ) so I'm super excited to be upgrading and being able to experience some better flavors (ordered from MtBakerVapor and got 4 flavors + a freebie to start!).

Thanks - ElectronicPull

 

[Fisheeboy]

Welcome to the ecf. I got my iTaste vv3 a few weeks ago and it seemed to be pretty much fully charged when it arrived. I threw i on the charger any way though. As for your amp question I just started at the lowest until I found the right flavor. And some flavors will be better at different settings than others. It's up to you and your tongue as to where you like your settings. The Itaste vv3 is a great little device! I'm so in love with mine.

 

[dice57]

Voltage and wattage are both a function of ohms law, so many volts across a said resistance will produce and X amount of watts. If set at watts, the device will regulate the voltage so that you get the selected watts. If used in voltage mode, increasing the volts will increase the watts burned. They are just 2 different ways of getting there. Which ever method you use, you still have to dial it in to find your preferred vape level. Just adjust it till it tastes best.

 

[ElectronicPull]

Thanks! I'll most likely do as you did, just throw it on and hope that I'll only have to wait 15-30 minutes for it to finish off! Is there any v:w ratio that is generally recommended to start, or is that subjective as well? From what I understand (I could be wrong though!) the higher the voltage, the more flavor (until it tastes burnt). Does the wattage have a similar purpose/effect?

 

[ElectronicPull]

Thanks dice57, that clears things up.

 

[Fisheeboy]

Maybe in theory the higher the voltage the stronger the flavor. But I tend to hover between 4.0 - 4.3 but I can go higher and taste no difference until i hit that spot were it taste burnt. I usually wont get that burnt flavor until around 4.6 but like I said I never see a need to go above 4.3 Right now it's at 4.2 but that's because i'm trying a new flavor and tryin to figure were it tastes best. But I.m sure 4.2 is were it's at for this one. My topper is saying 1.7ohm

 

[Bolivar]

Thanks! I'll most likely do as you did, just throw it on and hope that I'll only have to wait 15-30 minutes for it to finish off! Is there any v:w ratio that is generally recommended to start, or is that subjective as well? From what I understand (I could be wrong though!) the higher the voltage, the more flavor (until it tastes burnt). Does the wattage have a similar purpose/effect?

Its a pass-through device, meaning you can use it while it is on the charger....no need to wait. It will just take a little longer to come to full charge.

Yes, the flavor will change as you increase wattage, eventually becoming burnt tasting. I'd suggest starting about 6.5 watts and go up. You'll find your personal sweet spot. In variable wattage mode, it will do all the voltage calculations for you as the battery voltage drops.

Enjoy! I love mine.

 

[Katya]

Most batteries usually arrive at 60-70% charge. New batteries have no memory--actually, the benefit from being topped off rather than allowed to fully discharge and recharge.

More on wattage and voltage:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...151082.html?highlight=disclaimer#post12151082

 

[Katya]

Thanks! I'll most likely do as you did, just throw it on and hope that I'll only have to wait 15-30 minutes for it to finish off! Is there any v:w ratio that is generally recommended to start, or is that subjective as well? From what I understand (I could be wrong though!) the higher the voltage, the more flavor (until it tastes burnt). Does the wattage have a similar purpose/effect?

Actually, it's all about wattage, not so much voltage alone. High voltage coupled with high resistance atty will not increase your wattage (power, heat). Please see my link above.

 

[ElectronicPull]

@Fisheeboy - I'll most likely start at 3.5-4 and work my way up, it goes all the way down 3.3 but I've never heard of someone going that low...maybe in the case of conserving battery or for someone who prefers a lower density of vapor?

@Bolivar - I completely forgot about that feature, good to know as I will plug it into my laptop and lay that next to me when I get home tonight! (Assuming it arrived, the anticipation sucks when I've got work until 12:30am ) In what instances would the battery voltage drop, when the light turns yellow? Does it put itself into some sort of conserve mode when the battery is running low (Adjusting from VW...Now if I were to adjust from VV on a low battery, will the volts stay as is until I adjust from VW mode again?)?

@Katya - Could you clarify? Are you suggesting that the only benefit for prolonged non-degraded battery life is to fully drain/fully charge in order to minimize the amount of times it's plugged in? Thanks for the link, I'll definitely check it out.

 

[tornadochaser]

I have an itaste vv 3.0 and really love it. it is a great little device. i have mine set at 7.5 watts for the cinnimon flavors i have, seems to make a nice flavor and doesnt seem to really suck the battery down to quickly. havent really gone above 7.5 yet though. i also am using a Kanger protank 2 on it as well.

 

[Katya]

@Katya - Could you clarify? Are you suggesting that the only benefit for prolonged non-degraded battery life is to fully drain/fully charge in order to minimize the amount of times it's plugged in? Thanks for the link, I'll definitely check it out.

your lithium-ion battery likes it better if you don’t discharge it all the way between charges. This is why Apple recommends that you go ahead and plug in your charger when the device gives you its low battery alert. When you charge, the battery doesn’t really mind if you don’t top it off. Li-ion battery lifetime is all about charging cycles. One charging cycle is the time between one full charge and one full discharge. You can partially charge or discharge your battery many times during a single charging cycle. In short, your lithium battery has no memory effect, and you can recharge it, in whole or in part, whenever you feel like it. -

See more:

What You Need To Know About Lithium Batteries | The Griffin Technology Blog

 

[Bolivar]

@Bolivar - I completely forgot about that feature, good to know as I will plug it into my laptop and lay that next to me when I get home tonight! (Assuming it arrived, the anticipation sucks when I've got work until 12:30am ) In what instances would the battery voltage drop, when the light turns yellow? Does it put itself into some sort of conserve mode when the battery is running low (Adjusting from VW...Now if I were to adjust from VV on a low battery, will the volts stay as is until I adjust from VW mode again ?

The voltage will slowly drop as it discharges. Yellow light is half (approx) charge. In VW mode it will automatically compensate for the drop, not so much a conserve mode. Yes, in VV mode, the voltage should stay constant, I think...never ran mine in VV mode. I always use VW.

 

[ElectronicPull]

@tornadochaser - Good to hear the results are good using a mid-range watt setting.

@Katya - Thanks for the quote, didn't know that about lithium batteries!

@Bolivar - Cool, sounds like VW is the most simple way to go. Of course everyone has their own preference though!

Would anyone know the approximate difference in battery length (puffs, hrs?) between vaping, say, 6w vs. 9w? I know that everyone takes a different length drag, but maybe someone could still ballpark?

 

[Katya]

@Katya - Thanks for the quote, didn't know that about lithium batteries!

Would anyone know the approximate difference in battery length (puffs, hrs?) between vaping, say, 6w vs. 9w? I know that everyone takes a different length drag, but maybe someone could still ballpark?

Anytime.

Generally, the higher the wattage (and the longer the duration of each drag) the faster you'll drain your battery. You'll figure it out in no time. I don't think anyone has actually timed it, though.

Generally, 100 mAh of batery capacity translates to 1 hour of moderate vaping. Yeah, I know, define "moderate.'