Do you rinse out brand-new bottles & DIY equipment prior to using the 1st time?

[Gato del Jugo]

Is it necessary, even for packaged & pre-sterilized syringes?

Plastic bottles? Glass bottles? Pipettes? Etc.


I do, but wondering if I'm wasting my time..


I sort of doubt commercial juice-makers rinse out (& dry) bottles prior to filling.. But perhaps they should?

 

[Cliven]

Once I receive a new supply of bottles and droppers/caps, I put them in a sink full of hot soapy water and let them soak for a bit. After a couple hours, I wash them out and rinse to dry then use. Prepackaged sterile syringes I leave alone and don't worry about.

 

[RocketPuppy]

Unless I'm getting stuff in sealed sterile packages, I rinse everything in either hot soapy water or vodka.

 

[rowdyplace]

Not sure if I should feel guilty... or stupid. (Maybe that's where that rash came from...)

I have just changed my ways. Pour a little vodka in each one, slosh and shake (the bottle) then drink the vodka. Cannot re use it in another bottle since it could be dirty...

Good thinkin!

 

[Nailz]

Syringes no, bottles yes, got most of my bottles from fasttech, so wouldn't want to use them without washing them out 1st, but I don't go extreme, just a good rinse out with hot water before using.

 

[Crunktanium]

Well lets see vendors don't wash bottles and very few vape shops even have a sink to wash anything. I highly doubt even the most expensive glass bottles of juice on the market are cleaned before use. If you think it's important then do it but it's not like they use lubricants as they do with metal tanks to make plastic bottles.

 

[vapero]

I don't


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[CastleRat]

I wash anything not sealed. I'm sure these things are washed where they're made. Machines do break down and may not rinse completely. You may be vaping residue from an industrial cleaner - something with a charming name like Liquid chisel.

Are you sure that bad taste is the coil?

 

[WillyZee]

Liquid Chisel ... I like that, just found a new name for my DIY Boston Cream Pie


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[Crunktanium]

Liquid Chisel ... I like that, just found a new name for my DIY Boston Cream Pie

I would make some (as seen on TV) coil cleaner called liquid chisel and people would buy that up so fast.

 

[Jonathan Tittle]

Given I've seen how dirty some of the bottles I've received are (and I've complained), I always wash them. I use fragrance & bleach-free anti-bacterial soap and scalding hot water. I'm a bit paranoid. If I had a commercial cleaner and commercial kitchen chemicals, I'd probably use those instead, though I'm not fond of the "drying agents" that are used.

This applies to plastic & glass.

As far as syringes, needles, etc - they go through the same process. To me, it doesn't matter if it's medical grade and sterile or not. I'm inhaling what passes through these items on a daily basis and there's room for error in production, which means anything is possible.


IMO, if vendors aren't cleaning their bottles, that's an issue. I can understand a fingerprint on the outside from label application, but not cleaning bottles is pretty much a health standard when it comes to drinking from, eating from and in this scenario, vaping and inhaling.

 

[Crunktanium]

How do you expect vendors to sanitize thousands of bottles?

Some vendors sell more then 10,000 bottles of juice a month. It would seriously impact the price of juice if every bottle was cleaned and sterilized.

 

[28if]

Probably 50 /50. Some I use right out of the shipping container and some I hot water rinse, dry and use.

Not too worried after smoking cigarettes for 40 years.

 

[MotherNatural]

Food Processing 101: Canning jars need to be boiled to sterilize just prior to filling.

This is for food. For something I'm going to put into my lungs I would find this step even more important. I only use glass bottles and hand wash them followed by filling them with boiling water or a PGA swish. This is especially important for long term nic storage. While I am soooo not a clean freak or a germaphobe, when it comes to juice bottles I want them clean. This probably comes from a lifetime of safe home canning practices drilled into my head.

 

[Jonathan Tittle]

How do you expect vendors to sanitize thousands of bottles?

Some vendors sell more then 10,000 bottles of juice a month. It would seriously impact the price of juice if every bottle was cleaned and sterilized.

For the vendors that are processing that many bottles per month, or more, it shouldn't be an issue for them and it should either be absorbed or calculated into the cost of doing business. This is Proper Handling & Sterilization 101 for any business. Whether it's washing by hand, or by machine, there's no valid reason for any vendor to not properly wash & clean their bottles, or sterilize in some way, shape, or form, prior to bottling any liquid.

 

[marshbunny]

I wash all bottles & caps with soap & hot water and store after dry.
Right before I am ready to fill the bottles with mix, I steam the bottles that I am going to use. I use the medela quick clean micro-steam bag (amazon.com). I put 6 2oz or 4 4oz glass bottles and their caps into the bag, add 2onces of water to the bag. I then seal the bag and microwave on high for 3-4 minutes. Steam cleaning kills 99.9% of most harmful bacteria and germs.
Just micro waving you bottles while still damp will probably do the same without using the bag but I don't mind the extra step. It does make it easier for the larger syringes & needles. I have smaller pre-sterilized syringes that I don't do anything to. I buy the 3ml sterile syringes (without needles) in 100ct box and the Stainless Steel Blunt Needle with 15 Gauge Luer Polypropylene Hub, 1-1/2" Length (Pack of 25) from Amazon. I also use these needles to build my coils on.

 

[Crunktanium]

For the vendors that are processing that many bottles per month, or more, it shouldn't be an issue for them and it should either be absorbed or calculated into the cost of doing business.

Well when you find a place that actually that does this you will have won the lottery. I talk to many store owners who all say they got into the industry to "help people" while charging $65 + tax for a crappy $18 FT Clone mod. Many store owners don't even vape themselves although most hire people who vape to make them look legit. So as someone who don't even vape themselves I don't think juice safety is that great a concern over profits. I also see more and more pipe stores converting into vape shops with some of the worst hardware and outdated crap money can buy. I seriously doubt that unless the FDA starts regulating that any large Ecig business would even invest in a three part sink.

 

[Jonathan Tittle]

Unfortunately, the lazy become passionate when there's potential for money to be made. It's sad, but it happens in every industry that has a surge or sudden uptake in followers or new customers. Some companies will take shortcuts while others will do the right thing. Hopefully, by process of elimination, those that take shortcuts will be weeded out.

Well when you find a place that actually that does this you will have won the lottery. I talk to many store owners who all say they got into the industry to "help people" while charging $65 + tax for a crappy $18 FT Clone mod. Many store owners don't even vape themselves although most hire people who vape to make them look legit. So as someone who don't even vape themselves I don't think juice safety is that great a concern over profits. I also see more and more pipe stores converting into vape shops with some of the worst hardware and outdated crap money can buy. I seriously doubt that unless the FDA starts regulating that any large Ecig business would even invest in a three part sink.

 

[wallacecarey]

I used to pick up from a plastic bottle plant. If you ever get inside a plant you would not be asking that question. By all means wash in hot soapy Dawn or the like.

 

[Yohkos]

For the vendors that are processing that many bottles per month, or more, it shouldn't be an issue for them and it should either be absorbed or calculated into the cost of doing business. This is Proper Handling & Sterilization 101 for any business. Whether it's washing by hand, or by machine, there's no valid reason for any vendor to not properly wash & clean their bottles, or sterilize in some way, shape, or form, prior to bottling any liquid.

I can see your point, other businesses that sell food or drinks don't have the luxury to say, "we just don't have time for that?" Considering the profit margin for ejuice, I would think that cleaning with some type of dishwasher/steralizer with the proper temps, is the cost of doing business and keeping your customer safe. Restaurants are required to wash their dishes at a certain temp. These temps should be documented daily. A bad health inspection can close the doors or suspend a business and that could eat up cost faster than breaking the rules. So why shouldn't vaping businesses have the same health concerns? This is one of many reasons I am turning to DIY, who knows where some of these ejuices are made and under what conditions. It seems there are so many vaping businesses opening to catch a fast profit without any real knowledge or care of safety or even care, because their bottom line is profit. Quality Control and safety should always be first. Do you always know what kind of conditions your ejuices are made in?