Cool fire 4 or istick 30w?

[Darth Omerta]

My fiancee wants an easy to use, durable wattage mod and is a tootle puffer so i dont think she will be requiring anything more than 30-40w max. She likes the look of these two (and lets be honest thats the most important part right?). I want to know the real important stuff. Which works better overall and will suit her needs better. Do they both increase/decrease wattage in single watt increments?

She currently uses a kangertech genitank on an aspire vv pen style. She will be using the genitank on the mod we end up getting.

 

[Night Hawk]

There's an iStick 40w with temp control due and in fact instock at one vendor already! Personally I had just ordered the third 50w iStick when Innokin was showing and now available their new 60w MVP 3.0 Pro. Even on a 150w except for a new tank(FreeMax by Starre) out now that handles 20-100w which I run about 70-8-w with some flavors that actually taste better with the 50w mods I run the sub ohm tanks(Aspire Atlantis with still in use Silica coils( at about 20-30w on average. A few flavors from my best ejuice cupplier I might run at 40w since a few seem to like the extra kick in watts depending on the tank of course!.

Presently the two most used mods would be... since I have several here the MVP 20w sitting on the desk if not one of the Vamo type in the mod stand or ZNA 50 which is a bit heavy being all stainless but a reliable mod lacking in temp control the iStick 50 and newly out iStick 40w see! I don' think the 30w offers the same while it does offer the improved fire button over the original 20w! I just ordered the third 50w iStick however and then saw the MVP 3.0 Pro 60w and got both! The 3.0 Pro has a 4500mah battery to compete with the 50W iStick 4400mah battery plus the additional 10w while the iStick 50w sounds about right for your concern there if not the new 40w model.
Read the initial review at: Eleaf iStick 40w TC $29.99 | Vaping Cheap

 

[Darth Omerta]

While I appreciate that info, i know she wont need temp control and she has less than zero interest in subohming. 40w is actually alot more than what she needs. The genitank runs at 1.5ohms i think and she just needs a bit more power than the aspire carries.

 

[Mooch]

Others will certainly chime in with personal experiences but, while you're waiting, have you checked out Mark Todd's and PBusardo's reviews? I don't remember if both of them have reviewed both mods but might be worth checking out. Just pick out the stuff that's important for the choice you'll be making.

 

[Nomoreash]

Both are good choice, historically I'd give the nod to Innokin for build quality and probably go with the Cool Fire 4.

The Istick 30 adjust in .1 watt increments and the Cool Fire 4 adjust in .5 watt increments.

 

[Andy79Z28]

There are so many choices out there. I have 2 istick 30's they work fine, have 2 sigelei vr2's which i love replaceable batteries, and 1 istick 50 (waiting for it to blow up) which I like as well.

 

[Night Hawk]

Well I have been looking not only at convenience as well as relibility but another thing that seems to scare people off before they get the inside look. Sub ohm tanks are not simply for Cloud making showmen but do actually have an item of value especially for those who have either been medium or heavy smokers in that the increase in flavor can also be found as well as the experience resembling the effect felt by smoking but much cleaner.

The level of satisfaction of not having to struggle to get a good draw like those still using cig alikes for example or fussing with small batteries to get any out of them is overcome. The vapor isn't so much warmer but more abundant as the big switch. Having a collection of quite a bit of cig alikes to a 150w mod and even now a tank that will handle upto 100w don't completely dismiss an upgrade! Most mods by the way are .5 watt increments in general while the iStick 50w as well as the new MVP 3.0 Pro 60w just out move in .1w increments.

Temp control is the focus you will now see more of for the entire collection of mods coming out in 2015 since we already have the watts! I wish the ZNA 50 50w SS mod I picked up at the end of last year had it! I wouldn't have to worry about the tanks getting a bit warm when having a hefty vape! And one other newbie for the iStick line-up is their new 40w model one vendor seems to have and others on July 24. Eleaf iStick 40w TC $29.99 | Vaping Cheap

 

[Chemtx]

I have both mods and each has pros and cons. I honestly feel the istick is easier to use and understand. Like others say the wattage increases or decreases by .1 increments. The range on the istick is 5 to 30 I believe and the screen is bigger. I don't normally utilize that high of wattage myself but it runs my iSub with no problem; should you want to dip your toes into that type of thing. Also, the istick 30 is smaller and fits rather well in a small hand.

Saying all that, I just ordered my second Cool Fire IV because I like it better. The wattages adjusts at .5 increments and it ranges from 6 to 40. The screen is harder to read but the pass through for charging is on the side instead of the bottom. The battery life and charge time are comparable in both mods. The Cool Fire just feels more sturdy and durable to me and it comes in purple and red. I mean come on; what gal doesn't like purple?

 

[r77r7r]

I remember it taking 2 or 3 tries for Innokin to get the MVP andVV3 right...Not saying that Eleaf has been doing much better, but the 30 is good to go from the start.

 

[Jingles]

I also have both an Istick 30W and a Cool Fire IV. I basically agree with everything ChemTx just said. The Istick is a little smaller, but the Cool Fire feels very comfortable in my hand. The cool fire seems to give me a stronger, nicer vape too. When one of my 20 or 30W Isticks dies, I will likely get another Cool Fire to replace it. I have a purple Cool Fire right now, but the Raspberry is calling my name!

 

[Vladimire]

Cool fire 4 all day mate


Sent from my iPhone mod running crazy build

 

[look30]

I bought 2 Coolfires and they're amazing. I used to go trough 3-4 batts a day on my Provari 2.5 on 18650, now I go trough 1.5 coolfires charges, basically in the afternoon when first CF4 is drained, I switch to the second one while the first one charges for the next day. You could vape trough and have only one but for $30 is worth getting a backup.
Vape quality is way better than ProVari because the Watt mode and it's one of the nicest looking mods on the market IMHO.
If you can, buy the Silver one because the black finish scratches fairly easy.

 

[Night Hawk]

I went for the third 50w iStick and haven't really looked the Coolfires out due to going with slighter higher wattage outputs as well as battery time! 2000mah isn't that much for a 40w mod by any means. I have some of those other 18650 powered mods with 3100mah high drain batteries in use. But those still won't compete well against the 4400mah the iStick 50 sees and the 4500mah the MVP 3.0 Pro has to offer.

As far as version 1s and 2s it seemed that way with anything that looked interesting just a year ago until the wattage barrier came down as far as not seeing anything over 25w. In the last year or so however there has been a fast turnover in hardwares with each company trying to top the next which typically results in seeing some goobers...! The SMOK Groove 3-15watter had a version 1 that saw the battery compartment catch of fire. The Groove II also failed mostly in quality as well. That had offered 3800mah to the MVP 2.0's 2600mah however making it look interesting.

There has never been any problem for me at least with anything Innokin makes except for the IClear tank which for me tanked sadly! The SMOK by Smoktech Trophy, Vision Victory, and Innokin IClear stunk on vapor output while the other SMOK tanks especially Tumblers and Viva Nova grew popular. Yet there was still something lacking to make the pieces come together as they should until Aspire came out with a few new ones last year. Now I await the next Triton with both premade coil and RDA option.

 

[Darth Omerta]

Well I have been looking not only at convenience as well as relibility but another thing that seems to scare people off before they get the inside look. Sub ohm tanks are not simply for Cloud making showmen but do actually have an item of value especially for those who have either been medium or heavy smokers in that the increase in flavor can also be found as well as the experience resembling the effect felt by smoking but much cleaner.

The level of satisfaction of not having to struggle to get a good draw like those still using cig alikes for example or fussing with small batteries to get any out of them is overcome. The vapor isn't so much warmer but more abundant as the big switch. Having a collection of quite a bit of cig alikes to a 150w mod and even now a tank that will handle upto 100w don't completely dismiss an upgrade! Most mods by the way are .5 watt increments in general while the iStick 50w as well as the new MVP 3.0 Pro 60w just out move in .1w increments.

Temp control is the focus you will now see more of for the entire collection of mods coming out in 2015 since we already have the watts! I wish the ZNA 50 50w SS mod I picked up at the end of last year had it! I wouldn't have to worry about the tanks getting a bit warm when having a hefty vape! And one other newbie for the iStick line-up is their new 40w model one vendor seems to have and others on July 24. Eleaf iStick 40w TC $29.99 | Vaping Cheap

I appreciate the attempted upsale, however, i am aware of what is out there and available. I started this thread looking for opinions about the cool fire 4 and the istick 30w from people who have used them. I know my fiancees vaping needs and temp control, more than 40 watts is all superfluous to someone like her.

 

[Darth Omerta]

A big thanks to everyone for the info. Looks like we'll be getting her the cool fire 4.

 

[Night Hawk]

The upside of the 50w wouldn't be so much the extra wattage as far as your friend would need but provide the extra battery power. In review of the MVP 2.0 6-11w 2600mah vs iStick 30w 2200mah vs Cool fire IV 40w 2000mah which do you think from that contrast will be the one lasting all day long? The recently new MVP 20w 2600mah while still seeing that awkward button location.

Now in contrast to all that the new 40w iStick compares by offering the new temp control technology will not being any wattage power house and why that had been suggested as a possible alternative. What temp control does is keep the tank from getting hot when vaping a lot. This is something other older style mods lack and the focus of what is coming this year.

Personally having looked at the Cool Fire I found that lacking for me. But that is also personal preferences. You still need to decide what will work out best for your friend's needs vs your own or anyone else's. No one can tell you that this or that mod will actually prove to be the best since each will grow into what works for them. For someone who was a light to moderate smoker they may need a lot to begin with. Several gave up vaping since what was likely the lack of satisfaction of the hardwares that weaned them away from tobacco simply wasn't enough to keep them hooked vaping wise if you can use that analogy. But let us know just the same how the Cool Fire works out.

 

[Puff2K]

If she's going to carry it around with her, the iStick 30 is nice and lightweight and I like it for that. But for staying at home, the Cool Fire 4 would be my choice. I haven't got a CF 4 yet but I will. Love my MVP 20 w.

 

[Night Hawk]

I have the MVP 2.0 still going strong along with a pair of 20w iSticks, the MVP 20w, skipping over the 3.0 however. The third 50w iStick came right before I went for the MVP 3.0 Pro 60w. The list goes on while finding I carry one of the 20w iSticks in a pocket while having either one of the 50w iSticks or the new MVP 3.0 Pro on a belt clip along with me. The new 40w iStick however does surpass the 30w with the improved threading and better fire button with other improvements for a good price.

That is about the same size as the 30w according to the info on it. The MVP 20w is actually taller and just a tiny bit heavier then the 50w iStick when compared weight wise. In fact my Samsung cell phone is taller and wider even then the 50w since the entire iStick line is compact to begin with. The displays are better then seen with the Cool Fire well for anyone fussy I should say. But despite having a 150w mod I use as well that doesn't mean I don't run a tank at 25w or 30w.

For anyone familiar with the Aspire Atlantis the new FreeMax by Starre tank vapes as smooth at 70-80w as the Atlantis sees with the exact same ejuice at 30w showing that match hardware for hardware as well as the ejuice that goes in is the maker or breaker. Your budget and a good look at several mods not just one or two can help you make a better informed decision however.
(Now for fuss over fire buttons as many complained about the 20w IStick and the MVP 2.0 with the 20w still seeing the same unfortunately the latest has a much better on now on the side opposite of where the tank goes on so no finger presses up against a hot tank?)

 

[DaveP]

I'm vaping my Cool Fire 4 at 10W from 7am until 8 or 9pm every day since I got it a few days ago. When I put it on the charger at night the battery indicator is showing around 40% charge left. I charge it when the fire button LED turns from green to yellow (around 3.7v from the manual).

I switch over to the Provari V2 or the iStick 20W until I go to bed. The only reason I do that is so that the Cool Fire is fully charged in the AM. When I go to bed, I take it off charge and stick the USB cable back on while I drink my morning coffee. This morning the green LED went to off right after I plugged it in, showing full charge.

I watched Phil Busardo's Cool Fire 4 review the other day. He's up on it and had only what he admitted to nitpicks with its design, performance, and construction. He really wants them to move the fire button to the corner area where the lanyard loop is now. I agree. That's where my thumb falls naturally.

I don't miss my finicky iStick 50W a bit. I'm really glad that the vendor swapped me out for the Cool Fire 4 after my 2nd iStick 50W display went dark. They replaced the iStick 50W once and then gave me the Cool Fire after the 2nd iStick 50W died.

 

[DaveP]

My fiancee wants an easy to use, durable wattage mod and is a tootle puffer so i dont think she will be requiring anything more than 30-40w max. She likes the look of these two (and lets be honest thats the most important part right?). I want to know the real important stuff. Which works better overall and will suit her needs better. Do they both increase/decrease wattage in single watt increments?

She currently uses a kangertech genitank on an aspire vv pen style. She will be using the genitank on the mod we end up getting.

The Cool Fire changes wattage in half watt increments. In voltage mode it changes in .1V increments. With most mods you have to change voltage a couple of tenths to change the wattage a small increment anyway. Half watt changes compute to be about .1 volts in the 1.9 ohm column. If you use higher end resistances .1 volt changes result in something like a .2 watt change.

At any rate, the half watt change is about right to notice a difference in the vape. We all change several tenths at a time to increase or decrease the vape. I know I go from 3.7v to 4v or 4v to 4.3 if I want a little more vapor.

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