best refillable pod system?

[casuald00d]

okay so i've used a bunch of different e-cigs at this point, including blu, vuse, juul, and some others. right now i'm using the juul. it almost never leaks (unlike the last blu e-cig i had, one called the myblu, yuck, two thumbs down for real) and the mint flavor is good enough for me. that's basically where i'm at. here's the thing: i don't like buying pack of pods, they seem ridiculously overpriced. and i don't like not having any options outside of what juul has for pod flavors. their range of flavors is basically a joke. i also don't like having only one nic strength. of course i do see that they're going to be offering another nic strength soon if they're not already but that's just not enough. i want access to the full world of vape juices.

so here's what i want:

• vape that works as good as the juul if not better
• vape that's the same size as the juul or just as easy to tuck in a pocket
• vape that uses refillable pods that i can load up in advance or as i go

i really don't care if it has temp controls. actually, i'd prefer it just worked like the juul without any controls where you just puff on it and it works. something easy. something small. something with refillable pods.

so what do you people recommend?

any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[bombastinator]

How about juul compatible refillable pods? Iirc they exist

 

[Brewdawg1181]

Same size as Juul makes it a pretty small universe of choices, I believe.

I use RTA's, but my son has gone full circle over many years. He's abandoned cloud chasing (he was dating a girl who told him vapers were d0uches). Now he's using Juul, but also tried the Smok Infinix. I tried them both, and the Infinix is refillable, and gave the best hit I've ever had out of a small cigalike/cigasize product. But, being a Smok product, it did crap out pretty quick.

 

[dsites]

A small increase in size will get you an Innokin T18.

 

[casuald00d]

How about juul compatible refillable pods? Iirc they exist

i like this idea a lot. the juul vape itself is fine for me. good size, barely good enough battery life (lol), and it hits well enough by my standards. if i can just find some nice refillable pods, that might do the trick.

is there some brand in particular that makes good refillable pods that work with the juul?

 

[bombastinator]

i like this idea a lot. the juul vape itself is fine for me. good size, barely good enough battery life (lol), and it hits well enough by my standards. if i can just find some nice refillable pods, that might do the trick.

is there some brand in particular that makes good refillable pods that work with the juul?

All I know is that they exist and there is more than one type. I’ve heard of j-pods and blanxs. As to how good they are I have no idea. There are also numerous YouTube tutorials on how to refill regular juul pods

 

[casuald00d]

Same size as Juul makes it a pretty small universe of choices, I believe.

I use RTA's, but my son has gone full circle over many years. He's abandoned cloud chasing (he was dating a girl who told him vapers were d0uches). Now he's using Juul, but also tried the Smok Infinix. I tried them both, and the Infinix is refillable, and gave the best hit I've ever had out of a small cigalike/cigasize product. But, being a Smok product, it did crap out pretty quick.

does smok have a reputation for making cheap crap? i know the name but i'm really not at all familiar with their products.

A small increase in size will get you an Innokin T18.

the t18 looks nice and simple + it's only like $30 (about the same as a juul). looks like a good option but is this something where i'd have to change the coils and all that nonsense? i would reaaaally prefer not to have to do any of that lol which is part of the reason why i like the juul (no maintenance). i just feel like i have to keep things really simple so that i stick with it. i've been going strong with the vape-only thing for a while, months at least, maybe over a year, can't really remember at this point. and one of the things that has helped a lot for me is the simplicity of the juul. it basically just makes it easy for me to vape instead of smoke. so when it comes to replacing coils and all that, i just feel like it's a bit too much extra burden for me at the moment that i'd rather not endure while trying to make sure that i just stick with vaping - you know, instead of going back to smoking (yuck lol). but yeah, just to go back to my original question, is it hassle free or do you have to change the coils and whatnot?

 

[casuald00d]

All I know is that they exist and there is more than one type. I’ve heard of j-pods and blanxs. As to how good they are I have no idea. There are also numerous YouTube tutorials on how to refill regular juul pods

gotcha. i've never heard of either, maybe j-pods, that almost sounds familiar. thanks for the info. as for the refilling... i've tried it. it's super whack. i don't recommend it. maybe i did it wrong but i'm pretty sure i did it right and it just doesn't work the same, leaks juice in your mouth pretty easily if you draw even slightly too hard. this is where having some pods that are actually designed to be refilled might be really nice, assuming they work as well as the actual juul ones do.

 

[bombastinator]

does smok have a reputation for making cheap crap? i know the name but i'm really not at all familiar with their products.

that’s something of a major point of contention on this board but imho yes. I consider them to be the huffy bicycle of ecigs. Low prices, lots of features, bright colors, poor quality control.

the t18 looks nice and simple + it's only like $30 (about the same as a juul). looks like a good option but is this something where i'd have to change the coils and all that nonsense? i would reaaaally prefer not to have to do any of that lol which is part of the reason why i like the juul (no maintenance). i just feel like i have to keep things really simple so that i stick with it. i've been going strong with the vape-only thing for a while, months at least, maybe over a year, can't really remember at this point. and one of the things that has helped a lot for me is the simplicity of the juul. it basically just makes it easy for me to vape instead of smoke. so when it comes to replacing coils and all that, i just feel like it's a bit too much extra burden for me at the moment that i'd rather not endure while trying to make sure that i just stick with vaping - you know, instead of going back to smoking (yuck lol). but yeah, just to go back to my original question, is it hassle free or do you have to change the coils and whatnot?

If you want to refill juul pods I’d say changing a coil cartridge is the least of your worries. Those things require a syringe. Just get a pair of tweezer nose pliers and it’s easy peasy. I’d say the t18 is the best choice here, ease of use wise.

 

[djsvapour]

I'm using the Rofvape Warlock PEAS. Its great.. but sometimes you need to mess around with the pods because they occasionally dry hit a little.
Obviously, I couldn't comment on the comparison to Juul, Blu and Vuse because 2 of those are tobacco company products (Blu and Vuse) and the other is a money-making machine taking the world by storm with a similar business strategy to a tobacco company. Get em in, keep taking their money, don't let them get away.
It seems like you are already feel sucked into that vortex. Luckily the UK has escaped Juul and should Juul come they might well fail as we aren't allowed liquid 20mg or more.
I don't know about refillable aftermarket pods for Juul. If they exist I can only shout as loud as possible that is a GOOD thing. I hope people gradually stop purchasing anything but the batteries ASAP. The rest of that marketing strategy stinks; I say that as a devotee of open system everything....
Apple does not exist in my world. Most of my Androids are rooted and I have a linux computer for surfing the net. Be as free as you can from greedy corporations, large or small. I certainly wouldn't even buy a Juul starter pack knowing I can get other pods. Doing that would be some sort of absurd vanity, pretending you waste a lot of money on something to look cool but secretly cheat the system. The Joyetech "Penguin" is half way between a tank and a pod - that's for more powerful vaping. Smok, Justfog, Jomotech all make pods. Even Vaporesso.
Choose on size of the device and price of pods really. The PEAS system is no more expensive than buying replacement atomizer heads (coils) for a traditional clearomizer or tank. I vape 18mg in it... I could DIY 24mg or even 36mg if I wanted. I don't seem to need it. 18mg @ 7 watts. About the same as 6mg @ 25 watts or 3mg @ 50-60 watts. I vape all those powers, and many in-between.

Good luck.

I have accidentally vaped 18mg (made for my PEAS) dripped into an RDA at 40 watts. Hmm... a bit cough-y.


I might DIY some 36mg just to see...

 

[bombastinator]

gotcha. i've never heard of either, maybe j-pods, that almost sounds familiar. thanks for the info. as for the refilling... i've tried it. it's super whack. i don't recommend it. maybe i did it wrong but i'm pretty sure i did it right and it just doesn't work the same, leaks juice in your mouth pretty easily if you draw even slightly too hard. this is where having some pods that are actually designed to be refilled might be really nice, assuming they work as well as the actual juul ones do.

Google is your friend in situations like this. Basically all pod systems require syringe tips to refill so messiness will not be avoided.

 

[casuald00d]

Luckily the UK has escaped Juul and should Juul come they might well fail as we aren't allowed liquid 20mg or more.

but isn't juul already in the uk? see: Fast-growing e-cigarette maker Juul to launch in UK | Reuters

 

[casuald00d]

Google is your friend in situations like this. Basically all pod systems require syringe tips to refill so messiness will not be avoided.

i really don't mind the syringe idea, just suck it up and drop it out into the pod. that seems acceptable to me. what i really don't know much of anything about is the coil replacing. pliers and what seems like a bit of finesse... or, again, i just don't know anything about it. maybe it's much easier than i'm making it out to be in my head without a real concept of what it entails lol. is it easier to replace coils than it is to drop juice in a pod with an eyedropper (assuming an eyedropper or something similar would do the trick)?

 

[bombastinator]

i really don't mind the syringe idea, just suck it up and drop it out into the pod. that seems acceptable to me. what i really don't know much of anything about is the coil replacing. pliers and what seems like a bit of finesse... or, again, i just don't know anything about it. maybe it's much easier than i'm making it out to be in my head without a real concept of what it entails lol. is it easier to replace coils than it is to drop juice in a pod with an eyedropper (assuming an eyedropper or something similar would do the trick)?

Generally yes. Replacing a coil is like changing a screw, and you only have to do it once a week or so. I suppose it may be a bit age dependent. I’m old. Putting needles in tiny holes isn’t as easy as it used to be. For me coils are an easy win. Perhaps not so much for you. Won’t know till you try though.

 

[stols001]

Um..... there would be a huge price differential, but I am going to answer this question honestly and say that the best pod system with refillable cartridges is the Lost Vape Orion, but it's kind of like going from a Yugo to a Lamborghini (in both features and price.)

I am also not a pod fan and might gently urge you to an Innoken T series model, because you are already used to the fixed wattage feature and they're cheaper to run and many happy quitters have absolutely sworn by them.

Anna

 

[Bookworm]

Google is your friend in situations like this. Basically all pod systems require syringe tips to refill so messiness will not be avoided.

I guess messiness is relative but not all pods require syringes for filling, for sure.

For OP, there are a ton of pod systems and several with a similar size to Juul. Reviews vary so you really just need to read about any that seem interesting to you. The best part is, most of these pod systems are very cheap and won’t set you back much if you don’t like it. Check out the pod forum, there are a few threads about the different systems available. Good luck!

 

[smoked25years]

The beauty of the Myblu is that it is only $1 (still is some places though the promotion officially ended). Another beautiful thing about the Myblu is that you can take it completely apart. You can rewick it easily. Wash the drip tip easily. And you even put in a new coil if you have the skill. And it is similar in size to the Juul but has a larger 350 mah battery that charges in a fast 20 minutes.

The more you use pod style devices, the more you will appreciate those things. The Myblu is a good device, especially if you are willing to do a small amount of upkeep. Take off the drip tip and wash it. Replace the cotton as needed. Etc.

The Juul is successful because they were smart in its design. It had temperature regulation, a good battery indicator, and refillable (although not advertised as refillable) pods years before others. They even put cotton in the drip tip to absorb spit back--no other company has copied that feature. Some other companies still haven't caught up with the Juul although it's been available for years.

Increased vapor production and ease of refilling are the biggest benefits of other devices.

For me, the Smok Infinix was a good alternative to the Juul, especially considering the $16 price. But it has both pros and cons.

I have not seen the perfect pen size pod mod. I think companies are focusing more on appearances than function.

 

[djsvapour]

but isn't juul already in the uk? see: Fast-growing e-cigarette maker Juul to launch in UK | Reuters

Well, it might be, but the community is already getting galvanized to reveal the truth about non-refillable pods. It took a lot of UK smokers 24mg or 36mg to get off the smokes by vaping at 7 watts (2013 standards). 18mg might not be enough.
Some people don't care as long as it's cheaper than smoking. Most do. When they find out they often want to know what we're all vaping and why. Most UK vapers who are on the road to 100% vaping soon look to reduce costs as well as nicotine level. I don't expect 18mg will be enough for some. The UK had a lot of 16/18mg products that vaped at 5-7 watts in 2013 and not many survived.
I'm not saying Juul is bad. I'm saying I don't agree with non-refillable pod systems. I bet we don't have Juul compatible pods.
Just checked. Yes, we do. Already. My prayers are answered.

 

[casuald00d]

a lot of helpful replies here! thanks a million.

but to the myblu recommendation, how dare you! lol. i've tried multiple of these and they all leaked a bunch of juice in my mouth. maybe ALL of mine were defective? i swear i have at least 3 though and i didn't buy them all at the same retailer... still, i guess they could all be defective? either way, never again will i use a myblu lol. literally the worst e-cig experience (myblu) i've had thus far.

at this point, i'm thinking i'm going to have to try some refillable pods that are compatible with the juul and if that's not as good as i'm hoping, i may take a look at one of these simple innokin vapes.

thanks for the suggestions everyone!

 

[bombastinator]

a lot of helpful replies here! thanks a million.

but to the myblu recommendation, how dare you! lol. i've tried multiple of these and they all leaked a bunch of juice in my mouth. maybe ALL of mine were defective? i swear i have at least 3 though and i didn't buy them all at the same retailer... still, i guess they could all be defective? either way, never again will i use a myblu lol. literally the worst e-cig experience (myblu) i've had thus far.

at this point, i'm thinking i'm going to have to try some refillable pods that are compatible with the juul and if that's not as good as i'm hoping, i may take a look at one of these simple innokin vapes.

thanks for the suggestions everyone!

If you do just really want a pod mod the lost vape Orion is apparently the highest quality one and it has a largish port so you can fill the pods from a bottle. It’s also got tc apparently which surprised me. I may actually buy one. They’re pretty large and expensive for a pod mod though