Best Disposable Vape to Quit Smoking?

[Eightvapejasmine]

I think what they are looking for is: Higher nicotine content, lasts long, simple to use

I recommend: RAZ DC25000, Equator EQ30000

What do you think? Any recommendations?

 

[bombastinator]

All disposables will suck for that.

TLDNR: why
The original methodology was you got some high nic and some zero and mixed them as needed or mixed your own. Disposables by definition have a fixed nic content.

TLDNR: on quitting
The idea is to taper off nic slowly. The cheapest way to do it (by far) is to use a rebuildable and DIY juice. The thing closest to a disposable that would serve is a pod. Simply buying single bottles of juice never Worked well because the jump from 3 to 0 was much too sharp. A lot of people got down to 3 then failed. Even 3 to 2 is probably too sharp for many I suspect. 24 to20 was easy, but percentage got steeper and steeper as one reduced which strikes me as counter productive. 3 to 0 is crazy hard IMHO. You need to get below the point at which anxiety reactions happen and 3 seems to be well above that.

TLDNR: problems I see with disposables
I suspect the thing that makes disposables popular is that (other than the confiscation thing that made Juul such a success) if(when) the automatic switch fails it seems to the user that the thing is merely empty. There is a reason that 1st gen vapes were all auto but 2nd gen vapes were all button. Auto switches fail. They’ve gotten a bit better as one of the ways they fail is if ANY JUICE AT ALL gets into the switch, so a sealed disposable can help with that. If anything gets into the switch though, even a speck of dust, they fail though. And they have to be open to the air (usually it’s a tiny hole) so they will all eventually fail. They might not always do it before they’re empty of course.

TLDNR: my attempts to quit
The lowest I could get was 12, but I originally started vaping because I needed an anti-anxiety drug (which nicotine is). I’ve got a different one now and I’m already down to 10. I’ll see how low I can get. I do DIY/rebuildables so I’m not in a massive hurry. My cost per month is something like$35 vs hundreds if I used disposables. My next 60ml bottle will be 5.75ml of 100mg base instead of 6ml.

 

[Eightvapejasmine]

All disposables will suck for that.

TLDNR: why
The original methodology was you got some high nic and some zero and mixed them as needed or mixed your own. Disposables by definition have a fixed nic content.

TLDNR: on quitting
The idea is to taper off nic slowly. The cheapest way to do it (by far) is to use a rebuildable and DIY juice. The thing closest to a disposable that would serve is a pod. Simply buying single bottles of juice never Worked well because the jump from 3 to 0 was much too sharp. A lot of people got down to 3 then failed. Even 3 to 2 is probably too sharp for many I suspect. 24 to20 was easy, but percentage got steeper and steeper as one reduced which strikes me as counter productive. 3 to 0 is crazy hard IMHO. You need to get below the point at which anxiety reactions happen and 3 seems to be well above that.

TLDNR: problems I see with disposables
I suspect the thing that makes disposables popular is that (other than the confiscation thing that made Juul such a success) if(when) the automatic switch fails it seems to the user that the thing is merely empty. There is a reason that 1st gen vapes were all auto but 2nd gen vapes were all button. Auto switches fail. They’ve gotten a bit better as one of the ways they fail is if ANY JUICE AT ALL gets into the switch, so a sealed disposable can help with that. If anything gets into the switch though, even a speck of dust, they fail though. And they have to be open to the air (usually it’s a tiny hole) so they will all eventually fail. They might not always do it before they’re empty of course.

TLDNR: my attempts to quit
The lowest I could get was 12, but I originally started vaping because I needed an anti-anxiety drug (which nicotine is). I’ve got a different one now and I’m already down to 10. I’ll see how low I can get. I do DIY/rebuildables so I’m not in a massive hurry. My cost per month is something like$35 vs hundreds if I used disposables. My next 60ml bottle will be 5.75ml of 100mg base instead of 6ml.

Thank you for sharing your detailed insights and experiences. I understand your point about the limitations of disposables for gradually reducing nicotine.

But for those who are new to vaping, disposables might seem like a convenient option.

Thanks again for your input.

 

[bombastinator]

They are. It’s just that they’re both relatively extremely expensive over time (though cheaper initially) and the no mixing eventually becomes an issue. That issue wouldn’t even be one if there were more available nic levels and at the higher levels they do work. Just not at the lower ones.

TLDNR: trying to figure out the different measurement systems
Myself I’m already out of the higher levels. As I understand things, the density of pure nicotine, while being a powder, is close to water (something like 1100 or 1011 or something) which would make 5% pretty close to 50 (so about double of a regular cigarette), and I just mixed 5.75ml of 100mg/ml of unprotonated base into a 60ml bottle. Which would be somewhere between 10 and 9, so I'm starting to get past ultralight territory. Trying to do the math on that but failing. What matters though is blood level of nicotine. The various forms of nicotine (so unprotonated and the various salts) each have different bioavailability, plus since there are many kinds of salts, each with a different weight as well it gets kind of complicated.
i dislike the term “salt nic” because it doesn’t say which chemical it is reacted with to make the salt in the first place. They’re all different chemicals and they all behave (and taste) differently.
NACL or table salt, is sodium and chlorine. There are other sodium salts though that are used as road salt in different weather conditions. NACL is just the warmest one. Some of them are poisonous. When I was a landlord I kept some others around for when it got really cold. I had one brand called “heet” that would bite until -30f instead of just -5 like NACL does. It would kill dogs if they walked in it though.