Anthony Vapes: Innokin Pocketbox and Innokin Scion II Review

[Anthony_Vapes]

Hi All, Anthony Vapes back here with my review of the innokin Pocketbox and the innokin Scion II Sub Ohm tank

Product Disclaimer
This product was sent to me from innokin

Review Disclaimer
I review products for what they are with no account of where it comes from or who makes it. The test results are the results for what is in my hand. Due to possible QC difference your experience may vary. There is no way for myself or anyone to predict if a device will last 6 months, 1 year, 5 years etc. Any manufactured item from cars to phones to computers to mods have a possibility of arriving DOA or having a small percent failure rate. There is no way to predict this or quantify this. That’s why warranties and lemon laws exist. I can only review what I have in my hand for better or for worse. Contrary to popular belief, there is no special review samples of higher quality. Most of the time personally i get retail versions, the few times i’ve gotten early releases they are usually worse than the final retail version.

Reviewer Disclaimer
I decided to add this disclaimer in as i feel it’s important for people to know their source of the review. I’ve been vaping since late 2011. I’ve vaped all the styles from MTL to RLH to DTL. tanks, RTAs, RDAs, you name it. I do prefer the DTL and RLH style over MTL personally. My main focus from an atomizer is flavor. For mods i’ve used mechs and regulated mods. I’m an avid temp control vaper but enjoy power mode as well and the occasion mech useage for nostalgia. I’ve been doing reviews since late 2016. As of Jan 2018 I’ve done over 100 written reviews and done over 150 video reviews on my channel, Although i’ve taken a break from videos in the past few months to focus on written reviews.

I spend a lot of time helping vapers on forums as well and try to answer all the questions and comments on my reviews. I’m not an “out of the box” reviewer. I do my best to be thorough at all times. All mods get tested with an oscilloscope and stress tested. At times if needed i’ll disassemble them as well. Rebuildables get multiple builds in them. Tanks i use all coils until the die or a minimum of 2 weeks if they don’t die sooner. I do this for the community to help people find good products and avoid bad ones. In my opinion a reviewer works for the community and nobody else. It’s our job to inform vapers of issues and not be advertisers as well as provide constructive criticism from a place of knowledge back to companies with these reviews so they can improve and make better products in the future.

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Best of 2017 list here

Pocket Box
Introduction:
The innokin pocketbox is a small AIO style device similar to the mi-one. It features a top fill where the coil is screwed in to the top which is then screwed down directly into the box. With a 1200mah built in battery and a 2ml capacity it is a nice on the go set-up. It’s available in 3 colors black, blue, and white

Manufacturer's Specs:

• All-in-One Design
• Simple One Button Design
• Dimensions: 2-7/8" x 1-13/16" x 15/16" (Including Mouthpiece)
• Built-in 1200mAh Battery
• Maximum Output Wattage: 40W
• Resistance Range: 0.2 - 3.5ohm
• Voltage Output: 3.3 - 4.2V
• 2.0ml e-Liquid Capacity
• Leak Resistant Cup Design
• Top Fill Design
• Dual Airflow Slots
• Top Adjustable Airflow Control Valve
• Battery Life Indicator
• Utilizes Innokin Pocketmod Slipstream Kanthal Atomizer Heads for Wattage Mode
• Charged via Micro USB
• Available Colors: Blue, Black or White

Included in box:

• 1x Pocketbox
• 1x DTL Coil 0.35ohm
• 1x Micro USB Charging Cable
• 1x Quick Start Guide

Pictures
Stock Shot Colors:

Handchecks:

Size Comparisons:

Coil:

Box:

Kit Rundown
The Innokin Pocketbox Is a Box style AIO (all in one) kit, meaning there isn’t a separate mod or tank that can be used with anything else. It’s a miniature one at that and similar to the smoking vapor mi-one. it’s features top airflow with coil options for DTL or MTL vaping, but only the DTL one’s are included. It has a good capacity of 2ml and doesn’t use a lot of juice. The battery is listed at 1200 mah and the max power output at 40 watts. It’s a direct output system so you will get weaker hits as the battery dies. There is an LED to let you know battery life. Green for full, yellow for dying, red for almost dead. It features built in charging but they don’t list the rate. Still it charges pretty fast. I didn't time it but charging seemed around 1-2 hours to charge. There is Passthrough vaping as well. Air is adjustable and very easy to adjust. You can get it pretty tight even with the DTL coil but it doesn't work well with that coil. I didn’t receive a MTL coil to try it with.

It has 1 LED Light on it above the USB port. The fire button is on top and is rubber with a nice feel to it. Filling the box is very easy just unscrew the the top and fill inside the large fill area but only to the max line. If you fill past that, it’ll overflow when you put the coil back in. There is a cut out as well and the glass is clear so juice level is easy to see. It uses the standard 5 clicks on and off as well. Overall a very easy to use and nice little vape pod

Coil Performance and details
The kit comes with 1 type of coil (a .35 ohm DTL coil) but also has an optional MTL coil available. They sent me a spare pack of the DTL coils but none of the MTL coil so i can’t judge that one. Now time for the fun part. I took it apart and from my estimation and based on the specs it appears to be a single spaced coil, 2.7mm ID, of 23 gauge wire around 4-5 wraps. It uses non-resistance leads like many premade coils. If i plug in those specs into a an ohms law calculator (.35 ohms, 40 watts max) the volt output would be 3.7 volts. So you won’t start feeling a weaker hit until you get below that point. Based on their specs the cut off is 3.2. The coils for this use a more standard style like many sub ohm tanks and not the BF ones like the mi-one or similar joyetech ones. Which makes it work better with thick juices. I ran 50/50 30mg nic salts with no issues but it could be harsh for some with the DTL coil. I also ran 70/30 3mg as well with no issues, but the hit was weak for me. I’d need more than 3mg personally for a device like this. It’s kind of an inbetweener.

As far as the actual coil performance goes. The flavor was on the better side for AIO systems for sure. I liked these coils better than the mi-one or joyetech BF coils personally. Obviously you have to consider the type of device isn’t going to be a flavor monster by most people’s definition including my own. Coil life was hit an miss. I used 3 coils in it. 1 coil i was able to use 20 ml of juice which i consider good for the type of device. It’s not a juice hog and should be good for a weeks use. 1 coil I only got 6 ml out of before burnt taste which is not very good. The 3rd i got 14ml out of. Which is decent. So coil QC like always with pre-mades could be an issue. 1 was good, 1 was decent 1 was bad. It also handles chain vaping well. I can take 3-4 long puffs before i have to let it sit a few seconds and rewick.

Pros:

• Build Quality
• Color Options
• Size - (very easy to pocket)
• Looks and style
• Battery Life
• Low Juice Consumption
• great for beginners due to ease of use
• Charges fast
• price point (under 30 dollars)
• refillable
• good flavor for an AIO
• passthrough vaping
• battery indicator
• easy to see juice level
• nice fire button
• adjustable airflow

Cons:

• Coil QC is hit and miss
• doesn’t include the MTL coil option

Conclusion
So with all that said, do I recommend this kit or not? I don’t like to do a hard yes or no, but this is going to lean a little towards the yes. It’s essentially the innokin version of the mi-one but it works great a sa simple AIO box device. Coil QC is a bit iffy so don’t be surprised if you get some bad ones. Still it’s the newest box style mini AIO from a company known for solid products. They just need to work on their coil QC. I’ll be adding it to my spreadsheet.

It can be purchased here for 29.99 in the US

Official Site here

 

[Anthony_Vapes]

Scion II Sub Ohm Tank
Introduction
The Innokin Scion II, is the newest sub ohm tank from Innokin and the follow up to the original Scion, this one making claims of 200 watt maximum. It’s a pretty standard sub ohm tank these days feature wise with nothing unique about it, and a small 3.5ml capacity. It’s available in 3 colors SS, Black, and Rainbow.

Manufacturer's Specs

• Stainless Steel and Glass Construction
• 10mm Bore 810 Delrin Drip Tip
• Dual Adjustable Airflow 9mm by 2mm Each (Fully Adjustable)
• Organic Cotton
• Single Vertical Coil
• 70 to 100W
• 0.5 ohm
• Quad Wicking Ports
• Parallel Configuration
• Dual Vertical Coil
• 100 to 200W
• Scion Coil System 0.28 ohm
• Threaded Top Fill
• 3.5ml Capacity
• Threaded Drip Tip
• Three Large Fill Ports
• 24mm Diameter (25 Widest)

Box Contents

• 1 x Scion 2 Sub-Ohm Tank
• 1 x Scion 0.28 ohm Coils
• 1 x Scion 0.5 ohm Coils
• 1 x Additional Glass Tank Section
• 1 x Extra Drip Tip
• 1 x Extra O-Ring Pack
• 1 x Quick Start Guide
• 1 x Vape Band

Coil Options

• 0.5 Ohm Wattage Range: 70 - 110
• 0.28 Ohm Wattage Range: 100 - 200
• both coils are kanthal

Pictures:
Stock Shot Colors:

Pics on mods:

Top Fill

Handchecks:

Box:

Optional RTA deck:

Coil breakdown (.28 ohm):

Looks and Design
The Innokin Scion II tank is a very basic sub ohm tank. It’s 24mm at the base, and 25mm at the widest part (AFC) It’s a large tank but not bulky by any means. Branding is simple it says “INNOKIN” and “SCION” on the top cap but it’s the same color as the tank so doesn’t stand out. That’s all. All 3 colors come with a pretty standard delrin black 810 drip tip. A little on the plain side these days. Overall it looks like most sub ohm tanks on the market today.

Features and Functions
The Innokin Scion tank uses a standard 810 tip and needs one with thick o-rings. All the threading on this tank is very nice and the parts themselves are good quality. The coil system is a simple screw into the base like most tanks these days. You can’t swap coils until the tank is empty. Airflow is 2 large holes equally spaced apart. It’s plenty of air, easily made for DTL vaping. The AFC is smooth and easy to adjust thanks to it sticking out more than the base and having knurling on it, it also clicks into place and has a stopper. Very easy to adjust while on a mod as well. Filling is easy as well, it uses the slide back style top. The hole is quite large and easy to fill with any bottle type but just pouring juice into the tank could be problematic. It’s also very smooth as well.

Coil Performance
Now to the important stuff. How does it vape? There are 2 coil options for this tank and both are included. The pre-installed one is the .28 ohm rated for 100-200 watts. It’s pretty overrated personally i found it best in the 120-130 range. Not really 200 watt capable. I had no issues using 70/30 80/20 and max VG juices in it. Flavor and vapor was pretty average I’d say around the smok TFV8 level. Not quite as good as the top tier tanks on the market for that 100+ watt range. I was also only able to vape 80ml on it before it burned out. Feels a bit below average to me. For me that’s about 3 days if it was all i vaped on. I assume the average is somewhere in the 15-20 ml a day for sub ohm vapers so essentially i’d say about 4-5 days which is below average. Personally I’d like if coils could get at least 100-140 MLs per coil. I disassembled this coil and the pics are above. By my estimates and measure and using steam engine it’s a 4 wrap dual parallel coil at 8.5 mm ID with 22 gauge kanthal. Steam engine lists the heat flux at 102 watts.

The 2nd coil is a the .5 ohm 70-110 watts. It only used 70/30 and 80/20 on this coil. I’ve only vaped about 30ml on it, and while it’s not burnt, it’s never passed the “break in” and just flat out taste funny. I’m quite sick of vaping on it personally. I’ve vaped it mostly at 70-80 watts but even at the max listed 110 it just makes it taste worse. It feels accurately rated enough but just has a weird funny taste.

There is also an optional RTA deck for this tank as well. It’s a standard velocity style one. I didn’t use it at all however to judge it.

Overall Impressions
Overall I’m just not impressed with this tank. It doesn't do anything to make it stand out from the other 20-30 sub ohm tanks to hit the market in the past year and the coils really aren’t anything impressive as the range from decent to flat out bad. The capacity is pretty low for such a high watt sub ohm tank as well. Much lower watt one’s will have at least 4 ml capacity and this is even smaller than that.

Pros

• Build Quality
• Fill port
• No Leaks
• Color Options
• Standard 810 tip (needs o-ring tips)
• AFC adjustable easily on mod
• optional RBA deck available

Cons

• not much different from other sub ohm tanks
• coil life
• coil performance
• RBA deck could have been included
• small capacity (3.5ml)

Conclusion
So with all that said, do I recommend this tank or not? I don’t like to do a hard yes or no, but i’m going to have to lean towards the no. It doesn't do anything that a bunch of other tanks on the market don’t do already, the capacity is small, and the coils were at best average with the .28 one and at worst, downright bad with the .5 ohm one. Innokin makes some great mods and MTL stuff but high watt sub ohm tanks, doesn’t seem like their thing at all.

Buying Options

USA here for 23.95

This is Anthony Vapes just keeping it honest, hopefully you all can say the same and i’ll catch you on my next review.