50 watts, 100 watts, 150 watts.... seriously?!?

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So since the Cloupor dna 30 clone was released I hopped in line with the preorder. I had to have one to see what the hoopla was about and I must say since I received it I haven't put it down. Purchased another fastech Hana clone and love it!! Using single coil builds in a dripper at about 1.5 ohms I've been in heaven. I'm seeing all these devices coming out with much higher output and wondering is it really needed? What kind of build would you use at 100 watts?? At 150?? I'm not knocking them at all but completely curious as to what can be done with a device like that???


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So since the Cloupor DNA 30 clone was released I hopped in line with the preorder. I had to have one to see what the hoopla was about and I must say since I received it I haven't put it down. Purchased another Fastech Hana clone and love it!! Using single coil builds in a dripper at about 1.5 ohms I've been in heaven. I'm seeing all these devices coming out with much higher output and wondering is it really needed? What kind of build would you use at 100 watts?? At 150?? I'm not knocking them at all but completely curious as to what can be done with a device like that???


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My guess is only for multicoil setups. Take your single coil setup. Make it a dual coil setup with both coils the same size as the coil you are using now, and you would need approximately twice as much power to get the same amount of heat(although, much more vapor). Quad coils, even more so...

Personally I'm satisfied with my single coils. More work just for more vapor(and I get a great amount from my setup)? No thanks.
 
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I picked up a 50W and don't sub-ohm and really never get below .8 with my standard being 1 ohm. When the 100W comes out I am going to pick one up just for the battery life since they hold 2 - 18650's. I still don't see myself getting over 20W because I don't like a hot vapor.

With a 1 ohm coil I am normally vaping at 20W and the flavor kicks the crap out of any of my current mech's. At first I didn't get it either but once I tried one I was sold. I get so much more flavor out of the same coil and juice on my 50W, that made me a believer.
 

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Well, I think my sweet spot on a dripper is right around.3-.5 ohms depending. On a freshly charged battery, that would be pulling about 59-35 watts respectively. The DNA30 sort of gets it done for a higher ohm build, but have a 100 watt regulated mod with dual 18650's is looking pretty good to me! Would I use 100 watts? Maybe not. But I would definitely use more than 30. ;) The other advantage is you can get similar results, with a higher ohm build, so you don't have to get into the ohms/amps danger zone.
 

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60 watts is a really nice vape too me on a dual coil RDA with a wide open draw. I suppose you would need 120 watts to push quad coils at the same level. Honestly, past around 30 watts per coil I think you lose to much flavor in favor of bigger clouds, but some people like that too. Things change as toppers evolve. Nobody needed more than 10 or so watts back when I started vaping, because it would just burn your cartos. Now I can totally make use of 60 watts. Who knows what we'll see in 6 months. And, because these high wattage devices use two or more 18650s or a 26650 even if the next big thing requires fewer watts for a better vape you will still have all that phenomenal battery life.
 

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I thought for a long time I'd never come near the max output of 16 watts of a Provari, yet I've been getting errors on mine because I am pushing the limit and that's not even sub-ohming. I did try a vape shop's employee DNA 30 at 30 watts on a Kayfun (I believe single 0.8 ohm coil) and found the flavor to be exciting, but it was much warmer than I like my vape to be.


Personally, I do think my comfort zone will be found between 20 and 30 watts and I'll go for that one device that has proven itself to be safe enough. I'm crossing my fingers not to go over that anytime soon 'cause I do love the 'vari, but who knows? I guess one can get accustomed to anything given enough time...

Even though the number of watts seems high, there are many other factors in play (including safety), so why not 500 watts and a backpack full of batteries? I did, not once but twice, walk a half hour with my car battery in a backpack and back for another half hour with a new one... I attest it is doable! You only need to live with a chiropractor and everything will work out just fine.
 

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My guess is only for multicoil setups. Take your single coil setup. Make it a dual coil setup with both coils the same size as the coil you are using now, and you would need approximately twice as much power to get the same amount of heat(although, much more vapor). Quad coils, even more so...

Personally I'm satisfied with my single coils. More work just for more vapor(and I get a great amount from my setup)? No thanks.

I vape mech mods and am just starting to wrap my head around this high power regulated stuff. Here's what I've got so far:

Watts = the amount of heat you put into the atty. This only influences wire temperature and vape temperature if you allow it to (wicking and air flow). Mostly it determines the amount of juice you vaporize per second of hit.

2, 1 ohm coils in parallel on a mech mod = 0.5 ohms which at 3.8 volts (4.2 volts minus voltage drop) makes around 29 watts.

2, 1 ohm coils in series = 2 ohms. This setup has the same coil surface area and mass as the example above and I can set the watts at whatever I want with a regulated mod (within reason). If I set it at 29 watts I should get pretty much the same vape from this 2 ohm regulated build as from a 0.5 ohm mech setup with a fresh battery.

And we thought VV vs VW was interesting :)
 
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I vape mech mods and am just starting to wrap my head around this high power regulated stuff. Here's what I've got so far:

Watts = the amount of heat you put into the atty. This only influences wire temperature and vape temperature if you allow it to (wicking and air flow). Mostly it determines the amount of juice you vaporize per second of hit.

2, 1 ohm coils in parallel on a mech mod = 0.5 ohms which at 3.8 volts (4.2 volts minus voltage drop) makes around 29 watts.

2, 1 ohm coils in series = 2 ohms. This setup has the same coil surface area and mass as the example above and I can set the watts at whatever I want with a regulated mod (within reason). If I set it at 29 watts I should get pretty much the same vape from this 2 ohm regulated build as from a 0.5 ohm mech setup with a fresh battery.

And we thought VV vs VW was interesting :)

That sounds about right. Although I keep seeing that scenario mentioned, I'm not completely sure how people would do multicoil setups in series. Every RDA I know of has a single positive post and a varying number of negative posts, so the only way to actually do multi-coil setups is in parallel.

And yea... When you dig into the nuts and bolts of just about any part of vaping gear, it results in some pretty interesting stuff.
 
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